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Dec. 12, 2011, 7:04 p.m. | Politics — by Interfax-Ukraine

Viktor Yanukovych and EU Commissioner for Enlargement and European Neighborhood Policy Stefan Fule started a meeting in Kyiv on Monday.

Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and EU Commissioner for Enlargement and European Neighborhood Policy Stefan Fule started a meeting in Kyiv on Monday. An Interfax-Ukraine reporter said that journalists were present only during their greetings speech.

The commissioner addressed the Ukrainian president in Russian.

Journalists were able to hear Yanukovych expressing the words of gratitude to Fule.

Then the meeting continued in a tete-a-tete format.
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Anonymous Dec. 12, 2011, 8:45 p.m.    

It is well known that Yanukovych can only speak one language-Russian and that he does poorly.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 8:27 a.m.    

There're many others like that besides him.

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Anonymous Dec. 12, 2011, 9:32 p.m.    

Russian is Ukraine's official language. How else are you going to get a lower gaz price?

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Anonymous Dec. 12, 2011, 9:53 p.m.    

Russian is a barbaric language. Yanukovych is a barbarian.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 8:26 a.m.    

That's a relative category, given the savage manner of your parents and you.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 12:31 a.m.    

Russian is much more of an international language than Ukrainian. Ukrainian is often thought to be a made up language by country bumpkins in the Western Ukrainian villages. There is no argument that Russian is much more recognized and spoken throughout the world.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 4:44 a.m.    

Most Ukrainians accept and speak both languages. The only true Ukrainian is spoken in Poltava and it is a very beautiful melodic language. A bit like Shakespeare is to English, or listening to a poem by Dylan Thomas spoken in Welsh or reading the bible in old traditional English. Sadly modern day English language has been bastardized by the American in its use and spelling

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 4:12 p.m.    

Your comment is absurd.

Actually, there are tens of millions (10,000,000's) of Ukrainians that do not speak and/or accept the Russian language - including the Diaspora. And, the Ukrainians that came recently - their children are not forced to learn Russian and their children prefer to learn [Ukrainian] English or American [etc] .

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 7:24 a.m.    

WOW!

Something for you to wack off over.

There're others showing a different preference.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 3:02 a.m.    

That was the line they used when they forced Russian down the throats of millions of non Russian peoples of the Soviet Republics. In any country it's native language is first and foremost. Russian is for Russians. The days of Russian supremacy and their grip on Eastern Europe is gone. Get over it.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 8:25 a.m.    

Actually, idiot nationalists like yourself should stop distorting the past and present.

&quot;Russification&quot; is a hypocritically used term. As an example, consider the low level of Gaelic use in Scotland and Ireland in contrast to Ukrainian language use in Ukraine. How often is the reerm &quot;Angolization&quot; used?

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 1:01 p.m.    

TODAY the Moskali are still trying to Russify UKRAINE and UKRAINIANS.

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/117671/50/page/1/#comments#ixzz1gPYIqJAT

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 5:34 p.m.    

Were these UKRAINIAN CHILDREN &quot;proudly&quot; feeling a part of the Russian Empire?

Why did the # of UKRAINIAN children in UKRAINE decrease about 50%, and the # of rus-sin children in russia increase about 50%??

The impact of the famine is shown in many ways. Just before World War II a survey of the number of students was made. Since children start school in the USSR at seven years of age therefore, seven years after 1932 there should be an indication of the famine by a drop in enrollment. Look at these figures:

Russian SFSR Ukraine Byelorussia

1914-15 4,965,318 1,492,878 235,065

1928-29 5,997,980 1,585,814 369,684

1938-39 7,663,669 985,598 358,507

Source: Cultural Construction of the USSR, Moscow: Government Planning Pub., 1940, pages 40-50.

The Russian Republic (where no famine took place), shows a steady increase as did all seven other Soviet Republics, with the exception of Armenia. Why did Ukraine have an absolute loss of 600,216 students and Byelorussia (also a famine area) 11,174? The tragic story of these missing school children is written in the pages of the man-made famine.

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/66019/50/page/1/#comments#ixzz15HzSZAaP

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/89881/20/page/2/#comments#ixzz1epwl3t6g

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/117671/50/page/1/#comments#ixzz1gQeEiDu4

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 2:43 p.m.    

The Russian Empire ceased to exist after 1917, you miserably stupid piece of svidomite crap.

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Anonymous Dec. 17, 2011, 12:23 p.m.    

&quot;Try to know yourself, your own wickedness. Think on the greatness of God and your wretchedness.&quot;.

The Russian Empire still exists today, and is trying to expand - and consume and enslave its neighbors.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 1:08 p.m.    

The Commies attempted Ukrainianization in land where Russian was the preferred language.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 1:54 p.m.    

Are you posting disinformation, or just showing your ignorance?

&gt;&gt; 1897 The total population of the Russian Empire in 1897 was recorded to be 125,640,021 people (50.2 % female, 49.8 % male).

Great Russian (i.e., Russian): 55,667,469

Little Russian (i.e.,Ukrainian):22,380,551

White Russian (i.e., Belarusian): 5,885,547

As many other census in the era of nationalism, the results of this census are biased and skewed towards the nationality preferred by the authorities, in this case, Russian, in order to inflate the numbers of population of Russian ethnicity.

{Also, we all know that the kremlin constantly lies and fabricates in their favor!}

PS did these Ukrainians all live in Moscow?

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 2:58 p.m.    

Your claim of bias is skewed given your own exhibited biases.

In any event, Little Russians like Gogol saw themselves as Little Russian in the regional sense, while proudly feeling a part of the Russian Empire.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 3:35 p.m.    

Were these UKRAINIANS &quot;proudly&quot; feeling a part of the Russian Empire?

That was the beginning of the ‘establishment’, which became known throughout the world as ‘the camp of death’. Here eight convicts died, among them Oleksa Tykhiy, Yuri Litvin and Valeriy Marchenko died here in 1984, and Vasyl Stus died here in the lock-up block in September 1985.

Here from 1 March 1980 to 8 December 1987, in different times and in different cells were punished other members of the Ukrainian Helsinki Group: Ivan Kandyba, Vitaliy Kalynychenko, Mikhaylo Goryn, Ivan Sokulsky, Petro Ruban, Mykola Gorbal, and the group’s foreign members: Estonian Mart Niklus and Lithuanian Viktoras Piatkus, who joined the Ukrainian Helsinki Group at the gravest time — in 1982.

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/russia/detail/118395/#ixzz1gQBBtsEB

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 5:06 p.m.    

The Danish Helsinki Committee

for Human Rights

Bredgade 36 B, 1260 Copenhagen K.

Tel. +45 3391 8110

Mail: main@helsinki-komiteen.dk

Legal Monitoring in Ukraine

Preliminary Report on the trials against

former Minister of Interior Yurij Lutsenko and

former First Deputy Minister of Justice Yevhen Korniychuk

This report describes and assesses the facts and the legal situation around the investigation and detention of former Minister of Interior Yurij Lutsenko and former Deputy Minister of Justice Yevhen Korniychuk.

http://helsinki-komiteen.dk/Helsinki-gammel/downloads/LM-Ukraine.pdf

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 7:27 a.m.    

These masturbating spams of yours are empty calories.

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 7:26 a.m.    

Diverts away from what I said.

Vintage svidomite.

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Anonymous Jan. 7, 2012, 4:24 p.m.    

Who cares when you sign your comment &quot;Vintage svidomite&quot; - living in your fantasy Vintage svidomite world?

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 12:34 p.m.    

Russian gaining in Federation’s non-Russian republics but losing ground in former Soviet space and beyond

Jun 7 at 11:48 | Paul Goble

Russian language instruction is increasing in the non-Russian republics of the Russian Federation and especially in the North Caucasus, but the language itself, Moscow experts say, is rapidly losing ground in the former Soviet republics and occupied Baltic states and beyond the former Soviet space.

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http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/68843/#ixzz0sRO5aEnw

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 1:06 p.m.    

One hack referencing another.

How quaint.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 3:42 p.m.    

Paul Goble translates many articles into English - that Russian Intelligentsia writes.

PS Why do you hate Russian children so much that you do not want them to learn the truth?

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 7:23 a.m.    

Paul Goble propagandistically posts dubious views without second guessing them.

You exhibit an Orwellian approach to the truth.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 2:21 a.m.    

No point in speaking to Yanukovych in Ukrainian. Yanuk speaks it poorly and understands it even less as he is not Ukrainian.

I guess if Fule wants Yanukovych to understand....he has to speak Russian.

Even tho Russian is a parochial language limited to asiatic europe,

yet it is important to get certain points across to Yanuk so that he can understand....as he ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

If one was to speak Ukrainian to Yanuk....might as well be French...Italian...German....English....it doesn't matter. Yanuk has no understanding of any language but Russian. He's a dummkopf!

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 8:21 a.m.    

Russian is the lingua franca of the former USSR. Outside that area, Russian is far more influential than Ukrainian. These points are something that the svidomites loathe.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 11:57 a.m.    

{Actually, the USSR was just a huge Potemkin village put on the map of our planet - in reality it was just a continuation of Muscovy!}

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http://www.kyivpost.com/news/russia/detail/117164/50/page/1/#comments#ixzz1gPJ3F5Nq

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 1:05 p.m.    

False.

It was run by a multiethnic group of elitists, inclusive of anti-Russian folk like Lenin.

On the concept of successor states, the Russian Empire is a historical continuation of Rus, which was showing signs of a regional shift of influence in the north before the Mongol occupation.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 3:26 p.m.    

PS If anyone honestly believes that Georgians, Ukrainians, Latvians, or Estonians [etc] were Socialist and wanted to be in &quot;union&quot; with the Moskali, then they would be plainly insanely delusional.

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http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/118368/#ixzz1gQ9iNZ22

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 7:21 a.m.    

Actually, it's a fact that a good number of non-Russians went Commie.

Meantime, Russia had its share of anti-Commies, including the Whites, Vlasov and dissidents like Solzhenitsyn and Sakharov.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 10:49 a.m.    

Absolutely correct. The Russian language is limited to the hinterland of north europe-asia. No one else voluntarily speaks this dialect. Even Russians bastardize their own language. They might as well be grunting to each other...quite primitive.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 5:47 a.m.    

Ukrainian? Is that really a language?

Isn't it actually a bastardized dialect of either Russian or Polish or perhaps even both?

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 6:56 a.m.    

Wrong my Russian extremist friend. Russian and Polish are derived from Ukrainian. Ukraine is also the cradle of the Eastern Orthodox church.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 8:19 a.m.    

BS my misinformed svidomite.

Linguistically, modern day Ukrainian isn't a matter of fact more accurate version of what was spoken in Rus (not &quot;Ukraine&quot; which develops much later).

The roots of the Russian Orthodox Church are in the long ago Rus. Its main location was moved north. Kiev had been destroyed by the Mongols.

In the aftermath of the Mongol occupation, modern day Russia emerges as the strongest and most independent of Rus lands.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 6:13 p.m.    

You stated, &quot;Kiev had been destroyed by the Mongols.&quot;

In 1164, Andrei even attempted to establish a new metropolitanate in Vladimir, separate from that of Kiev, but was rebuffed by the Patriarch of Constantinople.

Andrei Bogolyubsky

In 1169 his troops took Kiev. After plundering the city including stealing much religious artwork, he returned to the northeast afterwards.

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http://www.kyivpost.com/news/politics/detail/115714/20/page/1/#comment-148135#ixzz1gQiy9xic

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 7:15 a.m.    

You of course omit that Andrey was the son and grandson of Kiev crown princes, in conjunction with his having a valid claim to Kiev.

America had its civil war with Sherman burning Atlanta.

Rus included Kiev and the growing (in size and stature) territory in and around Suzdal.

The Kiev Patriarchate changed main aspects of its locale to the north following the Mongol conquest. This point relates in part to the current status of the UOC-MP, which is recognized by Constantinople.

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 6:26 p.m.    

The Kyivan Rus reached their peak during the reign of Prince Volodymir the Great (980-1015). In 988, intent on strengthening his position, Volodymir introduced Christianity to improve political and cultural relations with the Byzantine Empire, the Bulgarians, and other countries of Western Europe and the Near East. By the 11th century, Kyiv was one of the largest centers of civilization in the Christian World. It boasted over 400 churches, eight markets and nearly 50,000 inhabitants. By comparison, London, Hamburg and Gdansk each had around 20,000.

988: Christianity adopted by Kyiv.

PS Please note: Neither Moscow nor Muscovy existed.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 12:28 p.m.    

Moskali were burning Ukrainian books before Muscovy had grammar.

450 years Peresopnytsia gospel. The book, which miraculously survived

08/07/2011 _ Valentine Odarchenko, RL

&quot;This, in fact, was a textbook. And it was burned. Because it was written, as it was called then, &quot;in the yuzhnorusskom language&quot; - that is Ukrainian.

In 1690 he issued a decree to destroy all books written by Rus {PRONOUNCED UKRAINIAN} theologians.

http://www.istpravda.com.ua/digest/2011/07/8/45203/

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http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/109063/20/page/1/#comment-128326%23ixzz1SpB2uiXe#ixzz1gPQHeov5

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 1:02 p.m.    

There were no &quot;Ukrainian&quot; books in 1690 fool.

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Anonymous Dec. 26, 2011, 4:42 a.m.    

As metropolitan Mohyla improved the organizational structure of the Orthodox church in Ukraine, set strict dogmatic guidelines, reformed the monastic orders, and enriched the theological canon (see Canon law). He gathered together a circle of scholars and cultural leaders known as the Mohyla Atheneum (Atanasii Kalnofoisky, Yosyf Kononovych-Horbatsky, Sylvestr Kosiv, Isaia Kozlovsky-Trofymovych, Ihnatii Oksenovych-Starushych, Sofronii Pochasky, and Yosyf Tryzna), which produced an impressive corpus of theological scholarship.

Under Mohyla's guidance the circle prepared new editions of the Bible and the Lives of the Saints; elaborated a new catechism, Orthodoxa Confessio Fidei, which was ratified by the Orthodox sobor in Kyiv in 1640, by the sobor in Ia&amp;#351;i in 1642 (with emendations), and by all of the Greek Orthodox patriarchs in 1643; and issued an important work of dogma, the polemical treatise (see Polemical literature) Lithos, albo kamien ... (Lithos, or Stone ..., 1644; repub in Arkhiv Iugo-Zapadnoi Rossii, vol 9, no. 1 [1893]), a reply to Kasiian Sakovych in defense of the Orthodox faith and rite, possibly written by Mohyla himself.

Mohyla wrote introductions to a nomocanon (1629), a liturgicon (1629), an anthology of prayers (1636), a didactic gospel (1637), a triodion (1640), and Evkhologion, al’bo molytvoslov yly trebnyk (Euchologion, or a Sacramentary or Trebnyk, 1646), also known as the Great Euchologion of Petro Mohyla, and he is the author of Krest Khrysta Spasytelia i kazhdoho cheloveka ... (The Cross of Christ the Savior and of Every Man, 1632), which contains an emblematic poem and the text of one of his sermons. Manuscripts from his archive (150 pp) were published in Arkhiv Iugo-Zapadnoi Rossii (vol 7, no. 1 [1887]).

In 1631 Mohyla established a school at the Kyivan Cave Monastery.

In 1632 it was merged with the Kyiv Epiphany Brotherhood School to create a college, which eventually became the largest center of scholarship and education in Eastern Europe, the Kyivan Mohyla Academy. Ukrainian printing flourished under Mohyla's guidance, particularly at the Kyivan Cave Monastery Press.

Mohyla himself edited several liturgical publications there, and he brought in the best scholars, master printers, and engravers to work at the press.

http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages\M\O\MohylaPetro.htm

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Anonymous Dec. 23, 2011, 4:32 a.m.    

1616: The first dated book is printed at the Kyiv Pechersk Monastery of the Caves.

1720: Peter I of Russia orders Kyiv Governor Golitsyn to impound the ancient scrolls, chronicles, and books stored at the monasteries and convents of Ukraine.

http://www.day.kiev.ua/220928

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 3:06 p.m.    

The language in which the book was penned was strange to the French; the Tzar said (1717) it came from ‘Rus.’

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http://www.kyivpost.com/news/guide/general/detail/107359/#ixzz1Qhc97awe

PS He was the Tzar of Muscovy and did not say that it was written in the language of the moskali because most Mockali did not know how to read and write.

But, books and documents were written in the language of the Ukrainians.

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/politics/detail/107687/#ixzz1Spgl147B

Read more: http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/109063/20/page/1/#comment-128326%23ixzz1SpB2uiXe#ixzz1gQ2Wjgwu

PS Ukrainians were called Ruthenians - in those days.

&gt;&gt; 1722 When the Austrian monarchy made Galicia a province in 1772, Habsburg officials ***REALIZED*** that the local East Slavic ***PEOPLE WERE DISTINCT*** from BOTH Poles AND &quot;Russians&quot;. Their own name for themselves, Rusyny, was similar in sound to the German term for Russians, Russen. Austria ADOPTED the ethnonym Ruthenen (Ruthenians), and continued to use it officially until the empire fell apart in 1918.

Some 200 years ago and times prior to that, Ukrainians were usually referred to and known as rusyny (Ukrainian: русини, commonly translated as Ruthenians).

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 7:09 a.m.    

FYI, most people on the territory now known as Ukraine didn't know how to read during the stated time period in question.

There's no comapring the greater influence of Russian language and literature over the Ukrainian variant.

BTW, China and India comprise countries with more than one distinct language, with one national identity pretty much dominant.

A separate Ukrainian identity developed over the course of time, as opposed to always being evident.

The Ruthenian designatiion was more popular in non-Russian Empire land.

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 10:51 a.m.    

&gt;&gt; 1720. Peter I’s ukase banning the publication and printing of books in Ukrainian.

PS Please explain why the Kremlin forbid printing in UKRAINIAN if, &quot;FYI, most people on the territory now known as Ukraine didn't know how to read during the stated time period in question.&quot; ?

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 10:27 p.m.    

&quot;Ukrainian&quot; material was printed in the Russian Empire. In the late 1870s, some restrictions came about on account of lie filled anti-Russian venom coming from Austria-Hungary. This was during a historical period when tolerance to other views throughout the world wasn't as great as today.

Why is Ukrainian more popular in Ukraine than Gaelic in Scotland and Ireland - yet the term &quot;Russification&quot; (sic) is more popularly used than &quot;Angloization?&quot;

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Anonymous Dec. 18, 2011, 8:22 p.m.    

Already at the beginning of his report, Rafal Lemkin said that Holodomor &quot;is a classic example of the Kremlin's {AKA: Muscovy} genocide, and the longest's biggest experiment in Russification - the destruction of the Ukrainian nation&quot; .

This, according to Lemkin, was a logical continuation of Russian imperial policy, inhumane, which displays the time were &quot;sinking 10,000 Crimean Tatars by order of Catherine the Great, Ivan the Terrible massacres with the assistance of&quot; SS troops &quot;- oprichnina, Nicholas extermination of National Polish leaders and Ukrainian Catholics.

And, a number of Jewish pogroms that have stained Russian history periodically &quot; .

That day, after the Famine, Russian politicians, cynically using its tragic consequences for the Ukrainian nation, unceremoniously &quot;hang noodles on our ears&quot;: that the Russians and Ukrainian - are one nation with a common culture and history.

About the Holodomor, no objective scientist would agree with these imperial delusions.

http://www.istpravda.com.ua/columns/2010/11/26/6400/

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 11:48 a.m.    

Why do you hate Russian children so much - that you will not tell them the truth?

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 1:03 p.m.    

How are you treating them better with your fictional accounts?

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 3:22 p.m.    

Why is historical truth always labeled as lies by Moskali and their useful idiots?

Як створити образ ворога? Україна в російських підручниках

#24. Голодомор 1933 року&quot;не був геноцидом&quot; українського народу, бо:

- голод відбувся внаслідок посухи;

- голод був Божою карою для українців за участь у атеїстичних кампаніях влади.

How do I create an image of the enemy? Ukraine in Russian textbooks :

#24. Holodomor of 1933 &quot;was not a genocide,&quot; of the Ukrainian people, because:

- the famine was due to drought;

- the famine was God's punishment for Ukrainians participation in their atheistic government's campaigns.

http://www.istpravda.com.ua/digest/2011/09/18/54961/

PS KGB Kirill of the Moscow KGB &quot;church&quot;, in union with the Kremlin, is teaching his &quot;flock&quot; that God murdered millions (1,000,000's) of Ukrainians because the Ukrainians were atheists.

In reality, the Kremlin murdered tens of thousands (10,000's) of Ukrainian priests, clergy, and their families in the 1920's, 1930's, 1940's.

In reality, the Kremlin closed or destroyed all of the Ukrainian Churches in the 1920's, 1930's, 1940's.

In reality, the Kremlin stole the Ukrainian Churchs' land and property.

In reality, the Kremlin gave the Moscow KGB &quot;church&quot; Ukrainian Churches' lands and property.

In reality, Moscow will not allow a single UKRAINIAN CHURCH registered in Russia - of any denomination. NOT EVEN ONE UKRAINIAN CHURCH IN RUSSIA TODAY !

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/113906/50/page/1/#comments#ixzz1gQ8cHY5Z

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 7:19 a.m.    

Your &quot;reality&quot; is convoluted svidomite poppy cock.

The Commies initially encouraged a separate UOC from the ROC.

Stalin then sought a centralizing scenario.

Communism's collapse has brought about a free ROC-MP and its loos affiliates abroad.

Filaret is essentially a frustrated womanizing bum, who decided to change course after not getting a promotion.

The Uniate denomination was founded on the basis of Polish subjugation.

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Anonymous Dec. 26, 2011, 9:45 p.m.    

1921: The All-Russia Central Executive Committee adopts a decree on the confiscation of valuables stored at the churches, monasteries, and convents.

http://www.day.kiev.ua/221336

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Anonymous Dec. 31, 2011, 5:02 a.m.    

There were no schools in Moscow untill UKRAINIANS opened one.

Lavrenty Zyzany brought the manuscript of his Catechism to Moscow in 1626 and Kyrylo Tranquilion Stavrovetsky the manuscript of his Instructive Gospel in 1627, and Metropolitan Petro Mohyla sent Ihnaty Starushych in 1640 to propose founding Moscow’s first school by the efforts of the Ukrainian clergy.

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Anonymous Jan. 7, 2012, 7:24 a.m.    

I was amazed when I found out that during Yaroslav Mudry’s rule there was a girls’ school in Kyiv!

Later, during the Middle Ages the Syrian monk Paul Allepo wrote after visiting our country that in Ukraine even children and elderly people can write whereas in Europe it was the privilege of priests only.

The first books were printed here in the 15th century. The first tram in the Russian Empire was launched in Kyiv in 1892! The first illuminated street in the Russian Empire was Khreshchatyk! Who knows about this in Europe?

http://www.day.kiev.ua/215211

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/109063/50/page/1/#comments#ixzz1ikCmMozz

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/119768/50/page/1/#comment-161208#ixzz1ikHUjpFs

PS

Paul Zaim, known sometime also as Paul of Aleppo (Paul, Archdeacon of Aleppo) (1627 - 1669) was a Syrian Melkite clergyman and chronicler. Son of Patriarch Macarios III Zaim, Paul accompanied his father in his travels throughout Constantinople, Wallachia, Moldavia, Ukraine and Muscovy, as an attempt to raise funds and support for their Church (from 1652 to 1659).

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Anonymous Jan. 9, 2012, 3:30 a.m.    

1661: Lviv University is founded (currently Ivan Franko National University of Lviv).

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 12:45 p.m.    

To: All clueless teenage nashi - brainwashed useful idiots – kremlin propagandists – and – sockpuppets and trolls.

Instead of repeatedly posting disinformation about the Ukrainian and Russian language, you should learn some historical facts:

Ukrainian is an East Slavic language spoken in Ukraine and in Ukrainian communities in neighboring Belarus, russia, Poland, and Slovakia. Ukrainian is a lineal descendant of the colloquial language used in Kievan Rus (10th–13th centuries).

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/613050/Ukrainian-language

&gt;&gt; 1721 muscovy changes their name to russian empire.

On October 22, 1721, the ever-expanding Muscovite state was officially renamed into the Russian Empire and its people were called Russians instead of the earlier known names that the world knew them by “Moscovites”, “Moskali” and “Moscvyny.”

&gt;&gt;1710 Pacta et Constitutiones Legum Libertatumque Exercitus Zaporoviensis) was a 1710 constitutional document written by Hetman Pylyp Orlyk. It established a democratic standard for the separation of powers in government between the legislative, executive, and judiciary branches, well before the publication of Montesquieu's Spirit of the Laws. The Constitution also limited the executive authority of the hetman, and established a democratically elected Cossack parliament called the General Council.

Pylyp Orlyk's Constitution was unique for its historic period, and was one of the first state constitutions in Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Pylyp_Orlyk

Orlyk’s basic law never entered into force, and is, by contemporary standards, a simplistic text. Yet, in its time, this document gained recognition as a serious document, and served as a blueprint for future constitutional designs.

Articles 1-3 dealt with general Ukrainian affairs. They proclaimed the Orthodox faith to be the faith of Ukraine, and independent of the patriarch of Moscow. The articles also recognized the need for an anti-Russian alliance between Ukraine and the Crimean Khanate.

&gt;&gt; 1720. Peter I’s ukase banning the publication and printing of books in Ukrainian.

&gt;&gt; 1740’s The first Grammar of Russian Language was written by Vasily Adodurov in the 1740s, and a more influential one, by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755.

{PLEASE NOTE: Ukrainian books were banned by the kremlin before the russian language had grammer!}

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 12:47 p.m.    

&gt;&gt; 1753. Ban {BY THE KREMLIN} on the tuition in Ukrainian at the Kyiv-Mohyla Academy.

&gt;&gt; 1769. Ban {BY THE KREMLIN} on Ukrainian ABC books.

&gt;&gt; 1775. Destruction of the Zaporizka Sich and closure of Ukrainian schools at Cossack centres.

&gt;&gt; 1784. Only “Pure Russian” is allowed {BY THE KREMLIN} as the language of instruction at the Kyiv Religious Academy. {BEFORE THE MOSKALI CAME, UKRAINIAN WAS THE LANGUAGE OF KIEV}

&gt;&gt; 1825 Modern Russian is sometimes said to begin with Pushkin.

“Of course, I loathe my homeland from head to toe – But I was annoyed when a foreigner shares this feeling with me”. Pushkin

&gt;&gt; 1830’s Alexander Pushkin is usually credited with developing Russian literature. Not only is he seen as having originated the highly nuanced level of language which characterizes Russian literature after him, but he is also credited with substantially augmenting the Russian lexicon. Where he found gaps in the Russian vocabulary, he devised calques. His rich vocabulary and highly sensitive style are the foundation for Russian literature. Russian literature virtually begins with Alexander Pushkin. His talent set up new records for development of the Russian language. He became the father of Russian literature in the 19th century.

{PLEASE NOTE: The kremlin was banning Ukrainian books and literature for over a hundred years before “russia” had literature or a vocabulary!}

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 1:01 p.m.    

Keep lying in a spam like manner.

Muscovy in name consitituted the city state spirit of Rus. Russia is a related name to Rus.

Prince Oleg of Novgorod settled Kiev, at which point the historical period referred to as Kievan Rus begins.

&quot;Kievan Rus&quot; is a latter day term. &quot;Rus&quot; was the actual name of the entity in question.

Modern day Ukrainian doesn't more closely resemble what was spoken in Rus than modern day Russian.

&quot;Russification&quot; is a hypocritically inaccurate term. Note how popular Ukraianian is in Ukraine, when compared to Gaelic in Scotland and Ireland. Yet, &quot;Angloization&quot; isn't as popularly used as so-called &quot;Russification.&quot;

Following the Mongol occupation period, the northern area of Rus became the freest and stronest of Rus lands.

So much for svidomite crackpot claims on language, culture and history.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 9:02 p.m.    

This is a fact nothing new.&amp;#65279; But they can lie as no one else, they have no Slavic blood but they pretend to be &quot;mother&quot; of all Slavs. They lie and lie like about Novogrod where Muscovians murdered 130,000 people (women and children) coz Novogrodians wanted to be part of the Republick not Musovy. But they will not tell this loud they lie and lie without end. They stole history of Rus coz they don't have their own.

3 months ago

In Poland till the end of 19th century their were call Moskale not Rusians. And Ukrainians were called Rusini till the 1920. If you want to see DNA map then seek in the net Europedia, there is real DNA map which shows who is who. And You will see the closest nations by blood. And Russians are close to UrgoFins&amp;#65279; and tatars.

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 7:02 a.m.    

More lies.

There's no such valid DNA &quot;map&quot; concluding such.

Yes, nationalist anti-Russian scum flippantly use the Moskal and other related terms. So what!

Civil conflict in Russian history isn't unique to Russia. Consider the wars fought within the British Isles and the American Civil War among others.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 1:40 p.m.    

The following denationalizing trends aimed against the Ukrainian people must be placed on record in Ukrainian and Russian history:

• Alex of Russia’s order to punish the publishers of Ukrainian books with death (1667);

• Catherine II’s secret letter of instruction to Prince Rumyantsev, Governor General of Ukraine, concerning Russification of the populace, “so they stop looking for foreign alliances (1764)”;

• Decree by Russia’s Minister of Education Shishkov (1824), reading that “any word in Little Russian must be banned because it threatens Russia’s integrity as a state;

• Russia’s Interior Minister Peter Valuyev’s circular (1863), to the effect that no textbooks, literary works can be published in Ukrainian because this language “has never existed and shall never exist”;

• His 1870 successor Tolstoy’s directive read that “all people who represent other ethnic groups must be Russified…”

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/116005/50/page/1/#comments#ixzz1e7IpNHxH

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/russia/detail/117164/50/page/2/#comments#ixzz1gPgsMudu

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 2:55 p.m.    

As in read half truths and outright lies.

Less impresses as the kind who will downplay if not falsely deny outright the reality of Vhovski, Mazepa, Petliura and Bandera lacking popular support on the land now known as Ukraine.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 3:12 p.m.    

Why is historical truth always labeled as lies by Moskali and their useful idiots?

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 7:04 a.m.    

The more apt question pertains to why svidomites like Less regularly try to pass off half truths and outright lies as facts?

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 10:22 p.m.    

Likke so-called &quot;Ukrainian&quot; books in the 1600s.

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 1:26 a.m.    

Here are some old maps of Muscovy and the breeding of Moskali:

Великая Татария (Great Tartary).flv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycMnudTtoyQ

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 6:15 p.m.    

The Rus settlers of Kyiv built their first citadel at the end of the 5th and the beginning of the 6th centuries on the steep right bank of the Dnipro River to protect themselves from the marauding nomadic tribes of the region. The evolution of Kyiv into a city was tied closely to the development of the Kyivan Rus feudal state. Later, Kyiv’s Grand Princes built their palaces and churches on Starokievska Hill, while artisans and merchants built their houses next to the wharf on the Dnipro.

•988: Christianity adopted by Kyiv.

PS Please note: Neither Moscow nor Muscovy existed.

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 10:20 p.m.    

Note that a Novgorod prince Oleg changed his location to Kiev at a time that's associated with the latter day termed Kievan Rus.

True, the area around Moscow was developed by people who were from Kiev. Rus was a very much inter-mingled entity of related people.

As noted at this thread, following the Mongol occupation, the northern area of Rus clearly developed as the strongest and most independent of Rus land.

There's evidence that this regional shift in influence was begun before the Mongol occupation.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 2:59 p.m.    

As is to be expecxted, this article drew the usual round of dumbass svidomite replies.

Good to see some salient comments.

There's hope.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 7:32 p.m.    

Russian is the crudest and most vulgar of all Slavic languages. It is known as the &quot;Klingon&quot; of Slavic languages due to its gutteral gulag diction and pronunciation. Only barbarians from the North speak Russian. Russian is a second rate language compared to the elegant and beautiful Ukrainian language, which it is based on.

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Anonymous Dec. 13, 2011, 8:07 p.m.    

Uh-huh. Then why do you see most Ukrainians today on the popular social network sites write and speak Russian more than Ukrainian? And many of these people are from Western Ukraine!

Your foolish diatribe is a result of your distorted 70 year old view of Ukrainians living in thatch roof houses, wearing Ukrainian custumes every day and singing Hopak every 5 minutes.

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 6:59 a.m.    

That kind of idiotic mindset includes inaccurately brash claims that svidomite pseudo-historian Hrushevsky got the better of Karamzin.

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 6:57 a.m.    

In your stinkin wet svidomite dreams, as you can't legitimately explain away why Russian is far more popular than Ukrainian.

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Anonymous Dec. 18, 2011, 5:27 p.m.    

According to UN statistics, the average forecast of Russia's population in 2030 - 125.3 million in 2050 - 111.8 million people.

http://www.istpravda.com.ua/columns/2011/12/17/65462/

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Anonymous Jan. 9, 2012, 10:04 p.m.    

Turgenev once wrote that in the hour of hard pondering over the fates of his nation, the only consolation he could find was the Russian language. I find my consolation in ancient Ukrainian carols. It is hard to say what their essence is. Is it their particular beauty, which makes a magic impact on the listener’s soul, or conversely, it is the mysticism of our forefathers’ naive faith that makes koliadky so special and wonderful?

Yet listening to them dispels doubts and gives birth to hope.”

http://www.day.kiev.ua/300276

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyETGQDKP7c&amp;feature=related

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Anonymous Dec. 14, 2011, 12:35 p.m.    

This thread has the usual svidomite banter led by Less.

Don't be surprised if he's a Kyiv Post staffer.

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Anonymous Dec. 18, 2011, 7:05 p.m.    

85% of the &quot;Red Army&quot; that occupied UKRAINE were Russian. This 85% does NOT include Tatars, Chechens, etc.

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/russia/detail/117164/50/page/1/#comments#ixzz1guHZv8xK

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Anonymous Dec. 16, 2011, 6:45 a.m.    

CD2 sho take ljubov do Ukrainy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;v=TuewD3hiaXE&amp;feature=endscreen

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Anonymous Dec. 24, 2011, 10:18 p.m.    

According to the experts more than 50 art memorials have disappeared from the city map in the recent years.

Often situated downtown, they turn into an easy picking for developers and construction companies.

Instead of contracts for preserving history, sky-scrapers tower over the loss of centuries of knowledge.

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/119599/#ixzz1hTp694Uw

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Anonymous Dec. 18, 2011, 7:43 p.m.    

The first step was the destruction by the Kremlin of our national elite , the complete absence of which we are known to be experiencing now.

The second stage of the Ukrainian genocide, according to Lemkin, was the elimination by the Kremlin of our national church .

Third - the destruction of a significant part of the Ukrainian peasantry .

Finally, the fourth - the Ukrainian people mixing with other nationalities by the recent migration of Ukrainian territory.

http://www.istpravda.com.ua/columns/2010/11/26/6400/

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Anonymous Dec. 18, 2011, 8:36 p.m.    

Among them was Rafal Lemkin, convinced &quot;that the Ukrainian is not and never was Russian. His culture, his temperament, his language, his religion - all are different. ... He refused to be collectivized, accepting deportation and more even death. It was therefore particularly important to the Ukrainian be fitted to the Procrustean pattern of the ideal Soviet man &quot; .

Further scientific evidence suggests destroying the Communists churches and priests and church hierarchy - &quot;soul&quot; of Ukraine:

&quot;Between 1926 m and 1932-ies were eliminated Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church, 10 thousand were killed. Priests and Metropolitan Lypkivsky. In 1945, when Soviet power was established in Western Ukraine, a similar fate befell the Ukrainian Catholic Church .

The fact that prior to liquidation of the Church was offered the opportunity to join the Russian Patriarchate in Moscow - the Kremlin's political tool - indicates that the sole purpose of the action was Russification. &quot;

Here is what was actually forced Russification. I know it would be useful especially to those who today everywhere squeal about &quot;violent Ukrainization&quot; in modern Ukraine.

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Anonymous Jan. 7, 2012, 9:32 a.m.    

[FAMOUS ESSAY by Rafael Lemkin, New York, NY, 1953 ]

Going along with this attack on the intelligentsia was an offensive against the churches, priests and hierarchy, the “soul” of Ukraine. Between 1926 and 1932, the Ukrainian Orthodox Autocephalous Church, its Metropolitan (Lypkivsky) and 10,000 clergy were liquidated.

These attacks on the Soul have also had and will continue to have a serious effect on the Brain of Ukraine, for it is the families of the clergy that have traditionally supplied a large part of the intellectuals, while the priests themselves have been the leaders of the villages, their wives the heads of the charitable organizations. The religious orders ran schools, took care of much of the organized charities.

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Anonymous Dec. 19, 2011, 5:17 a.m.    

President of Estonia called Russia's &quot;language of the occupying power&quot;

&quot;When we finally gained independence, why it has become an occupying power the country's second language?&quot; - Toomas Ilves rhetorically asked.

&quot;And why should it be? For example, we invaded your country, but 50 years later we say that you have to make the Estonian language state. Occupation authorities taking over the country, deport hundreds of thousands of people in Siberia and send their people here. And now, when we finally gained independence, or should it be an occupying power the country's second language? Do not ask me ridiculous questions! My advice: Russian descent should have to take care of Estonian citizenship &quot;- he said.

http://tsn.ua/svit/prezident-estoniyi-nazvav-rosiysku-movoyu-okupaciynoyi-vladi.html

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Anonymous Dec. 20, 2011, 1:12 p.m.    

Kivalov assured that Ukrainian dream come true for Russian language (video)

Kivalov said that soon every Ukrainian can watch TV in Russian.

Every citizen will be able to read, write, plead, see TV - in Russian

http://tsn.ua/politika/kivalov-zapevniv-scho-mriyi-ukrayinciv-pro-rosiysku-movu-zbuvayutsya.html

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/politics/detail/119157/20/page/1/#comments#ixzz1h4XON8DJ

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