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FSB: Poles shot in Katyn have not been legally rehabilitated due to lack of documents

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Dec. 3, 2011, 5:06 p.m. | Russia and former Soviet Union — by Interfax-Ukraine
There are not enough documents for legal rehabilitation of the victims of the Katyn Massacre, Vasily Khristoforov, the chief of the Federal Security Service (FSB) registration and archives department, told Interfax citing prosecutors and judicial bodies. The Katyn Massacre is a collective term meaning the execution of nearly 22,000 Polish citizens held in various camps and prisons of the Soviet security police NKVD in April and May 1940. The Soviet Union denied for decades that the Poles were killed by NKVD servicemen.

"Polish citizens shot on Soviet territory have been denied rehabilitation based purely on the fact that the FSB archives do not keep criminal files against them. The legal obstacle to their rehabilitation is exactly this one," Khristoforov said.

The law stipulates that, for a victim of reprisals to be legally rehabilitated, their criminal file is supposed to be forwarded from an archive to a prosecutor's office or to a court, he said.

"There are no such files on Polish citizens, as they were destroyed. This is the only obstacle today due to which prosecution agencies and courts cannot rule to rehabilitate the POWs who were shot," he said.

The Polish servicemen have already been rehabilitated politically, when the State Duma passed a statement calling the Katyn Massacre a crime of the Stalin regime, he said.

"The State Duma has assessed these events as a crime committed on the territory of the Soviet Union, saying that the top Soviet leadership made a decision on this and that Stalin is responsible for it. There is no other alternative here," Khristoforov said.
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Anonymous Dec. 3, 2011, 5:32 p.m.    

{Actually, the USSR was just a huge Potemkin village put on the map of our planet - in reality it was just a continuation of Muscovy!}

НКВД проти Оун- УПА NKVD against UPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3JazBTivPk&feature=related

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http://www.kyivpost.com/news/russia/detail/117164/#ixzz1fUC1SEuX

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Anonymous Dec. 3, 2011, 8:53 p.m.    

@LES

THat is not exactly true that those were drafted, young officers - most of them were reserve officers i.e. people 45+ years old, so often veterans of the wars between 1914 and 1923. Because officers had to gain certain levels of education when retired they were often local political leaders, doctors, lawyers etc.

There is however one thing which is not always mentioned - that among those killed in Katyn and in other places were also Ukrainian and Georgian officers contracted in Polish Army even if never were Polish citizens. Often members of the Promethean movement directed against Soviet oppression (often veterans of wars after 1918 waged against the Red Army) they were the prime enemy of Soviet Union and many were hunted even after 1945 so had to hide their identity under false names.

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Anonymous Dec. 3, 2011, 7:21 p.m.    

Why was it a crime to shoot them? They were not just going to accept conquest and divison of the polish state.When in history have you allowed the leadership of the defeated to live.

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Anonymous Dec. 3, 2011, 7:44 p.m.    

You're an idiot!

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Anonymous Dec. 3, 2011, 8:06 p.m.    

The Bykivnia site might be the final resting place of 3,435 Polish officers captured by the Kremlin during the Berlin and Moscow invasion of Poland in 1939.

The savage barbarians in the Kremlin took well over 200,000 Polish people into captivity in 1939.

Polish Jews were returned back to the Nazis, if they were not Yevsektsiya. Polish and UKRAINIAN priests were murdered by the Kremlin's paid NKVD serial killers.

Most books and articles do not mention that that the Polish &quot;army officers&quot; were mostly only young college graduates that were just drafted due to the attack on Poland by Berlin and Moscow.

The reason that the Kremlin's NKVD murdered them is because they were the Polish Intelligentsia - doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc.

The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is the first time that I read about the Kremlin's “spheres of influence” in Eastern Europe - mentioned.

PS

What bothers me is the caption under the photo in this article. It states, &quot;Thousands of executed Soviet citizens are buried at Bykivnia Graves,&quot;.

Meanwhile, it should have stated:

&quot;Over One Hundred Thousand (100,000) executed UKRAINIANS are buried at Bykivnia Graves,&quot;! How many Russians from Moscow were executed in Bykivnia?

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http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/118033/#ixzz1fUoE3FuP

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Anonymous Dec. 3, 2011, 8:57 p.m.    

In other words you are advocating POW KILLING, yes?

Hope you enjoy the fact that 3 million Soviet POWs were starved to death by the Nazis for quite similar reasons. Hope you celebrate it and feel good about it too.

Funny, but even Nazis were not trying the same (most of times at least) because full 1/3 of Polish officers were killed by the Soviets while the Nazis didn't dare breaching Geneva Conventions so much.

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Anonymous Dec. 3, 2011, 10:52 p.m.    

Eisenhower let a million german pows starve to death.You have to break the will of the enemy or you will be fighting till hell freezes over.

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Anonymous Dec. 4, 2011, 2:33 a.m.    

Someone here has been reading James Bacque... or has read something that cited his book 'Other Killings' as a reliable source of information... and did a good job miss-citing it.

In regards to Eisenhower letting millions of German POWs starve to death, if it did happen (and to an extent it did, but outside of Bacque most put it at less than the million that is claimed), it is a breach of the Geneva Convention (G.C.) and a war crime (as the United States was signatory to the G.C.). However, it was not done to break the will of the enemy, as Bacque alleges that the events took place after the end of the war (between mid 1945 to mid 1946).

guest 22:52's statement that 'you have to break the will of the enemy or you will be fighting till hell freezes over' as justification poorly suits both the example he/she gives in Ike (as Germany was already defeated when the starvation situations developed), and in regards to Poland.

Poland, admittedly, still had will to fight (seen in the resistance that existed throughout the war). However, given that the Soviet repressions went beyond merely the leadership and ex-military but in general the whole of the population, it cannot be viewed as an attempt to break the will of the enemy or to kick them one last time to make sure they do not get up.

Poland witnessed as many as a million (more acceptable numbers between 300,000 to 500,000, but records are sketchy as much was destroyed) people forced out of Poland to eastern Russia as part of Soviet repressions. Another 150,000 to 200,000 died in prison camps (starvation, execution). Most of the internments were conducted under the charges of 'counter-revolutionary activities' or under the charge of 'nationalism', meaning that they were conducted as political and not military arrests (and were done by a public political entity, the NKVD)

What can be the most damning evidence that Katya stands as a crime executed above and beyond the necessities of war is that after the war the Soviets made attempts to blame it on the Germans, a claim that was maintained until the collapse of the Soviet Union (and is still held by many). Whereas Germany has acknowledged the Holocaust, Soviet Russia (and to a lesser extent modern Russia) as shown itself incapable in owing up to some of the atrocities done by it) In 1991 Yeltsin released documents to the Polish government revealing Soviet involvement in the massacre (of course, there are always those who debate the validity of the documents).

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Anonymous Dec. 4, 2011, 7:55 a.m.    

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/66315/ Lviv museum recounts Soviet massacres

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinnytsia_massacre : Vinnytsia

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/40516/ Day of remembrance for victims of political repression be held in Ukraine on May 17: Bykivnya

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/ukraine/detail/99297/ : Dobromyl

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Anonymous Dec. 4, 2011, 10:12 a.m.    

Mass grave of the Kremlin's victims unearthed near Ivano-Frankivske

11/12/89

JERSEY CITY, N.J. – Yet another mass grave of victims of the Kremlin's terror in Ukraine has been found in the republic — this time in western Ukraine in the Ivano-Frankivske area.

According to the September 30 issue of Komsomolskyi Prapor, official newspaper of the Ivano-Frankivske Oblast Komsomol (Communist Youth League), on September 21, in Demianiv Laz, a nature preserve near Pasichna, south of Ivano-Frankivske, a mass gravesite was unearthed.

Found along with the bodies — some 500 exhumed thus far – were documents proving that these were victims of the NKVD, executed in 1941. Many of the dead were prisoners in the secret police’s prison in Stanislav, now Ivano-Frankivske.

“The truth about Demianiv Laz, as well as the nearby Pavlivsky Forest and the nameless graves near Nadvirna, was to have been heard at the meeting in Ivano-Frankivske on January 29. However, the invited witnesses to the mass shootings and secret nighttime burials did not appear. We will not reproach the grandfathers of the Pavlivsky Forest and Pasichna for their fear,” the newspaper said.

On that day, according to a Radio Liberty report published in The Weekly in March, an informal historical-cultural society had wanted to organize a public meeting to commemorate the victims of the Kremlin. Local officials, reported RL, tried to transform the gathering into a meeting to honor “the victims of the Banderite movement.”

Komsomolskyi Prapor reports that Memorial has begun the difficult task of collecting eyewitness accounts of the massacre, using both audio and videotapes. The most difficult aspect of this work, Mr. Krutsyk told the newspaper, is to overcome the fear of local residents.”

The Komsomol newspaper described the scene as the mass grave was found after several unsuccessful attempts on September 27:

“A pile of wet, half-rotted clothing, out of which fall human bones. The old villagers of Pasichna cry. There is horror and pain in the eyes of those present. A toothbrush. An aluminum quart-container. They, obviously, were told that they were to be transported (out of the агеа). A leg bone sticks out of a shoe. Buttons. Death. The military field engineers have fallen deathly still. And the excavator is digging a new trench. On its shovel — clothing, bones. The videocamera records our return to history…”

“The seventh day of exhumation. The remains of 212 persons have been found. Examining the clothing, shoes, one can say with certainty: the absolute majority of the victims arevillagers. There are very many women. There are also invalids – a glass eye is found, as are dark eyeglasses of the type worn by the blind…

“The mind refuses to accept this horrible scene. And thus far, only one grave has beeh exhumed…” Thus begins the story of yet another Katyn, or Kuropaty, or Bykiynia-type grave of the countless victims of the Kremlin's reign of terror.

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Anonymous Dec. 4, 2011, 10:16 a.m.    

How many that were sent to this event, by the savage uncivilized pagan barbarians in the kremlin, were paid and TRAINED PROFESSIONAL SERIAL KILLERS and participated at this event (?) :

Donetsk, Rutchenkovo field.

Bottles of alcohol – NKVD man who drank during the brutal murders.

Nobody knows the exact number buried here, but Vladislav said that at least 70-80 thousand … And almost everyone of them has descendants and, most likely in this city.

http://biletskyi.blogspot.com/2010/04/blog-post_23.html

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Anonymous Dec. 4, 2011, 1:24 p.m.    

So, in other words, according to the NKVD-KGB-FSB these victims are guilty because they cannot be proved innocent as there are no papers describing what they were accused of? What a warped, demented and sick logic! In any normal country you are innocent until proved guilty, ergo these victims are innocent. What is so difficult about admitting that?

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