At key time, French resist NATO membership for Ukraine, Georgia
Nov. 30, 2010, 12:31 p.m. |
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Staff reports
A senior French government adviser told the United States in 2008 that it would “not have a great appetite” for offering Ukraine an action plan for membership to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
According to a U.S. diplomatic cable published by the WikiLeaks website, Philippe Errera, strategic affairs adviser to then-French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner, told Joseph Wood, deputy assistant to the U.S. vice president for national security affairs, that offering a Membership Action Plan (MAP) would be a “serious decision” because of NATO’s Article 5, which treats attack on one member as an attack on all.
He added that “NATO may not be ready for Article 5 guarantees to Georgia either.”
Wood responded that France’s “hesitation regarding Article 5 commitments implies a de facto ‘sphere of influence,’ because Russia is the only possible menace to Ukraine or Georgia.”
The exchange, dated January 2008, shows the divergence of views between leading NATO members ahead of the organization’s summit in Bucharest in April that year.
As a result of the summit, both Ukraine and Georgia were told they “will become members of NATO” but were not offered a MAP or given a concrete date.
Then-Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko attempts to gain a MAP were strongly backed by U.S. counterpart George W. Bush, but resistance was reportedly met from France and Germany.
the french are cowards anyway.how many thousands of British Americans and Canadians died to liberate them from the nazis
why did american and canadians come to a war that was non of there business. ? To rape and destroy europe and erase europeans existance with massive third world immigration.
And when did you exactly fall off the pumpkin wagon? Moron!
Yeah ? and how many Russians died to liberate Ukraine from UPA Nazis ?
Russian invaders and murderers...same as the Nazis
As far as i recall Stalin was a dictator and not a liberator, but maybe you live on another planet
not enough unfortunately
Obviously not enuf russians died. The vermin are still at it.
For me, and most people in Poland, France is political bitch and country of cowardliness. French sold Poland in 1939, Georgia in 2008 and many other countries in its own history.
I ask also: How many Poles died to liberate Russia from red bolshevik devils?? How many Germans died to liberate Russia, Belarus, Ukraine from soviet occupation??
During the Cold War, secure behind the protection of NATO forces in Germany, France dropped out of NATO. It only recently re-joined.
Two of my great uncles died in the Somme fighting the Germans because the French were cowards.
Who cares what they have to say about this?
How many ukrainians died because the germans extinguish them?
NATO no! This is a militant organization.
How many Ukrainians died because the kremlin extinguish them?
7.000.000 people or more........
7.000.000 people or more........
A few years ago, at a NATO conference in Paris, a French member asked.....'Why do we have to speak English at these meetings?'....an American general replied, 'Because we made it so we don't all have to speak German.
Another incident ....at a NATO conference, a French member asked, why do have have the Americans here in Europe,,,,why don't they just pack up and leave......where an American delegate replied.....' Would that include all the American soldiers buried in French soil?
It would appear Yuschenko was on the right track......but the arrogant and short sightedness of France and Germany, has condemned the people of Ukraine to suffer another decade or so of semi-communism , either directly or indirectly from Moscow influence.
France and Germany should hang their heads in shame, for not helping Ukraine,,,,,when they needed it the most. How soon they forgot.
You forget that a majority in Ukraine is aganist the NATO. The people wants affluence, that is a reason for a EU-membership, but not for a NATO-membership.
"A few years ago, at a NATO conference in Paris, a French member asked.....'Why do we have to speak English at these meetings?'....an American general replied, 'Because we made it so we don't all have to speak German."
At the same logic NATzO should speak Russian, because it was the USSR who humiliated the nazi Germany and their hohol UPA arselickers. It took TWO YEARS for the "brave american allies" to liberate Italy, at what period of time the Red Army advanced from Stalingrad to Berlin. LOL :D
millions of rusians died reaching berlin- excellent. shame it took 40+ years to go back to its own shit hole
Well, don't steal what is not fully yours - for this reason they would have to speak Ukrainian as well. Given that there were ca. 4 million Ukrainians in the Red army, you would never have won the war without us - just like the Americans would not have won without the USSR.
"Given that there were ca. 4 million Ukrainians in the Red army..."
This is impossible according to the nazi hohol diaspora - Ukraine did not had that much males left due to the "holodomor" myth they invented, HA HA HA, gasp, HO HO HO :D
Yup that many Ukrainians joining the Red Army makes the hohol UPA nazi arselickers real angry and whiny - no wonder Ukraine kicked their behinds out of the country for great laughs, heh, heh, heh :D
Listen yu brainless Russian sheep..I the NKVD chief together with comrad stalin made the red army ...what short memories my NKVD troops marched behind the red army threatening to shoot any red army soldier who became a pow or did not volunteer to become cannon fodder ---that is how yu become victorious TERRRORIZE THE SOLDIERS THAN TERRORIZE YOUR PEOPLE...the result a nation of docile goats who are to afraid to revolt and will always do what their master tells them.I am sorry my tactic did not work on those Ukrainians as they have the courage to stand up to their master yanukovitch the people rule because of the damn orange revolution...thank gGod our russian people are meek and doclile like the little sheep we want them to be...LOL LOL HA-HA HAAAA
Yup, yup, scratch this kicked by the Ukraine people UPA arse of yours and whine us more, nazi hohol loser, heh, heh, heh :D
We must defend WikiLeaks against Tyrants and Evil Doers who think they can keep their evil dealings SECRET!
France and germany are smart they know what happened last time they went to war with russia. It didnt end good for neither of them.
Usa is a crippled coward that need 42 colonies to attack thrid world afganistan. They ran away from there puppet georgia.
I was involved in the invasion and great victories of huge strong armies -the large armies of the Baltic states,the Hungarian revolution where the stupid people tried to form independence..we crushed them though they did have small arms and pitch forks.In 1968 we crushed the Czechoslovaks imagine they wanted Communism with a human face ..another great victory though they did throw a molotov cocktail at us...then there was Afghanistan-we lost that one but we put on a impressive show.
Ahh Chechnya where we crushed the mighty nation of Chechnya it took a while but our vast and powerfull army overpowered this mighty enemy and we installed our little puppet...then it was on to the giant powerfull nation of Georgia which was going to invade not only ossestia but probably Moscow as well and our vast and powerfull army repelled these dangerous invaders.
Then their was the Orange revolution damn it why do people get these ideas of freedom and liberty why can they not listen and obey like the good people of Russia who do not question,who do not resort to demonstrations who vote for whom we tell them ,who watch our dictated television stations who do not criticsize the government.
God forbid that the Russian people start marching in the streets like the Ukrainians demanding their rights to free and fair elections and voicing their opinions and being critical of their government,That is why we interfered in their elections -we must destroy their national conscientious,their language,schools cinema intelligensia=paint them as nationalistic fascist organizations and superimpose our russian ideals...keep the people stupid,in the dark -terrorize them with our SBD KGB NKVD CHECKISTI and voila yoi have a scared compliant population watching controlled television listening to controlled radio and reading controlled newspapers as well as a controlled internet...we must bring this to Ukraine or else we will lose control of our people and our power....am I right comrads....LOL HA HA
All they have to do is try to retake Estonia and the world knows why Russia never will have this capability. In the meantime, their remaining "ethinic" Russians will flee home to fill the vacuum left in the depopulated Russian heartland.
US alway were sissies - it took them five years pussyfooting in the Pacific to defeat less Imperial japs than what the USSR did in Manchuria 1938 or during the operation August Storm in 1945. The US cowards had to NUKE Japan because the US sissies were too chicken to face the japs in ground battle as they confess, so the Red Army had to defeat the japs for them. LOL :D