Clash Of Wills

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Aug. 26, 2011, 1:30 a.m. | Ukraine — by Svitlana Tuchynska

After breaking through one police line, protesters fail to get past the steel barricades erected to keep them from marching to Kyiv’s center, where an all-day Aug. 24 Independence Day celebration featured games, concerts, huge crowds – and little politics. About 5,000 people attended a rally by opposition political parties in Shevchenko Park. Demonstrators criticized the arrest and trial of ex-Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko and protested what they call President Viktor Yanukovych’s authoritarianism. A Kyiv court banned demonstrations in the center on Aug. 24, the 20th anniversary of Ukraine’s independence. City authorities backed up the ruling with a heavy police presence. No serious incidents or arrests were reported. Six police officers were reportedly injured, none seriously.
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Svitlana Tuchynska

The 20th anniversary of Ukrainian independence on Aug. 24 was marked by clashes and a brief standoff between riot police and protesters as tensions are running higher over the prolonged detention of several opposition figures.
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Anonymous Aug. 26, 2011, 4:14 a.m.    

Why is it that Yushchenko is not being charged for his tiem and abuse of Office? Yushchenko sold out and cut a deal to protect him from prosecution. If anyone should be facing trial it is Yushchenko, the betrayer.

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Anonymous Aug. 26, 2011, 6:53 a.m.    

You have it RIGHT!

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Anonymous Aug. 26, 2011, 5:35 p.m.    

Yushchenko was betrayed by the same Russian sponsored Party of Regions that is abusing power today. The Party of Regions is the real betrayer. Your Russian SPAM will not change anyone's opinion.

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Anonymous Aug. 26, 2011, 8:35 p.m.    

you have that right, party of regions are the real traitors to the nation.

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Anonymous Aug. 29, 2011, 12:13 a.m.    

POR is definitely not pro Ukrainian, but Yushchenko marched to the tune of the Orange Revolution and betrayed it, both while still president, and then by not supporting Yulia in the presidential elections. And unfortunately the Ukrainian people suffer for lack of good patriotic leadership.

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Anonymous Aug. 27, 2011, 1:32 a.m.    

Since when did Party of regions have an alliance with Yushchenko and how did they betray him. Come on Yushchenko has been the greatest betrayer of all, Be betrayed those who had supported him. He betrayed his own Party alliance he betrayed democracy itself and be betrayed Ukraine. sorry if there is one individual who much share the blame for Ukraine's current situation it is Yushchenko.

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Anonymous Aug. 26, 2011, 8:34 p.m.    

And Kuchma also should be put on trial for murder. Fair is fair

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Anonymous Aug. 26, 2011, 8:05 a.m.    

she has big plans to sue him. don't worry. she will sue them all and they will all sue her forever. they will rack up the scoreboard while ukraine's own score remains zero. can they all take a plane to paraguay together please?

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Anonymous Aug. 26, 2011, 8:11 a.m.    

Klitschko is a smart man. He will make his own moves and not lend support to some empty mouthpiece like Turchynov or Yatseniuk. The protest accomplished little except for photos, like always in Ukraine, it was mostly paid, able to be &quot;assembled&quot; for one day only and it accomplished nothing. Further demonstrating the opposition is weak and not something a potential new gun like Klitschko gains from at this early stage. It is like training with someone who cannot box well, for the biggest fight of his life.

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Anonymous Aug. 26, 2011, 10:22 a.m.    

Klichko's allies were right in leaving the gathering of Yulia-fans. Little talk about democracy. Little talk about freedom. All that came out of the mouths of Turchinov was venom at the regime. While BYuT was in power the same authoritarian methods were used and would have been used if she became president.

For the democratic opposition to be successful, it needs to: 1) authoritarians like Tymoshenko and Turchinov; 2) get rid of the losers like Kyrylenko and Grytsenko; and 3) castrate corruptioneers like Martynenko who stole millions from the state and then stole millions from the city of Kiev when he represented Our Ukraine. Once these losers are removed from the democratic camp, there will be a future.

Otherwise, the gatherings at Shevchenko monument will continue to be lame and Turchinov &amp; Company will through more Ukrainian meat at the militia for beatings and head bashing.

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Anonymous Aug. 26, 2011, 6:41 p.m.    

Regardless of political differences, one thing remains certain. People will unite to oust the dictator and his regime.A revolution is imminent!

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Anonymous Aug. 27, 2011, 1:53 a.m.    

The proposed electoral reforms will make things worst. The MMP system does not work. It creates two levels of unequal mandates within the same chamber. It did not work before so what makes them think it will work now?

1. Under the draft proposal single member electorates will be decided by a first past the post voting system whoever wins the highest vote wins the seat. This means in a three cornered seat of say 34.0%, 33.5% and 32.5% the person with 34% of the vote wins, even though 66% are opposed to them.

2. The remaining seats are filled using a party list system but the threshold quota will be increased

If they MUST have a divided mandate (Local versus national interests) then create a bicameral parliament with the Senate elected on a national interest mandate and the legislative assembly (lower house) elected on a local mandate.

any single member electorate MUST be decided by an absolute majority vote (50% or more) this can be achieved by adopting a preferential voting system (Instant Run Off voting) Each candidate is ranked in order of preference. If no candidate has 50% or more first votes then the candidate(s) with the lowest vote is excluded and their votes redistributed according to the voters choice. This process repeates until a candidate has 50% or more votes. Like the two round presidential system but One round of voting only.

A prefered more democratic model

Is to establish 45 to 50 local regional electorates of roughly similar size in numbers of voters. Each electorate would elect nine members of parliament using a Single Transferable Voting Proportional representation system. The quota for electing an candidate would be 10%. Those candidates that fall below the quota would not be disenfranchised as their vote would be transferred according to voters nominated preferences and used to make up and determine a successful Candidate's 10% quota. Method of counting the vote to be either Meek or Wright.

You get the best of all models. A single house, local electorates, equal mandates, and democratically elected representatives.

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Anonymous Aug. 27, 2011, 11:49 a.m.    

blah blah blah.....Yushenko made his dirty deal and let Tymosheno sink with the ship while the rat traitor that he is &quot;escaped&quot; and got to keep his ill-gotten money. Yanukovich the Barbarian thinks that he is in charge, only to be duped into old style politics while &quot;the powers that be &quot; wait and laugh.... Ukrainians wake up. Do not fall for the &quot;globilizationcould be the plan for Ukraine DIVIDE AND CONQUER East and West splitti

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Anonymous Aug. 27, 2011, 11:51 a.m.    

splitting Ukraine like what Nazi Germany and Communist Russia did to Poland. Is this what yoiu want? Send Y

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Anonymous Aug. 27, 2011, 11:52 a.m.    

send Yulia, Yanukovich and Yushenko as well as the rest to a Siberian Gulag. Have a legitimate Pro Ukrainian Government ,Parliament for the people of Ukraine.

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