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English fans show rowdy side, while Dutch and Swedes charm

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June 28, 2012, 9:11 p.m. | Ukraine — by Daryna Shevchenko and Mark Rachkevych

England fans cheer at the end of Group D match between England and Ukraine in Donetsk, June 19. Some of the English supporters enhanced their own reputation while staying in Ukraine as uncouth lager louts more interested in humiliating others and fighting than watching football.
© Kostyantyn Chernichkin

Swedes and Dutch charm
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GARY COOK June 29, 2012, 12:09 a.m.    

maybe you could say same about ukraine thieves as on one day 1 guy lost wallet lifted on metro from yrain station to main street next day i met 4 from donetsk 2 got on first train a guy opened his zip pocket and tried lift his wallet as it pulled into station he grabbed his pocket the guy jumped off train with his yukraine cap and got on next carriage and the next train with 2 guys a ukraine guy tried to open his bag when he comfronted him he run off the metro that was in 10 minute the police should have patrolled the metro also the police closing all the drinks kiosk down on day of england v italy on maidan so people went to fanzone and the increase in prices on fanzone for when english came and all phone card sellers closed down aswell

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Jerry48 July 1, 2012, 7:22 p.m.    

What about London tube?

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Nigel Streeter June 29, 2012, 12:34 a.m.    

I used to live and work in Kiev and seeing all the pictures of Kreshatik and Independence Square made me realise how much I miss being there!
I am not a football fan but sat rivetted to the tv for the Ukraine v England match - of course, having a Kyivian wife wife made it all the more, erm.... "interesting"!
There will always be mindless idiots that spoil it for everyone else but I know that the majority of Ukainians are smart enough to realise they are the exception, not the norm - just as a couple of thieves on the Metro doesn't mean every Ukrainian is a thief.
I was in Kiev during the Orange Revolution and one of my abiding memories is of opposing factions on opposite sides of the street, chanting, singing and dancing before meeting in the middle for a Slavutich or two.
Now that's the way to do Politics - and Football!
Nostrovia!

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IvanovPetrovSidorov June 29, 2012, 1:34 p.m.    

Actually, I somewhat agree with the spin of this article that there is a general perception that English fans are less civilised and more violent than Dutch or Swedish fans. I think that, to some extent, it is a reflection of education, upbringing and cultural norms. Englishmen have certainly lost much in terms of decency and respectability over the last few decades. There is a stark cultural gap and an attitude problem; lack of good manners and ignorance grounded in arrogance and conceit.

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GARY COOK June 29, 2012, 6:24 p.m.    

its because of education so why all the rich in ukraine send their kids to england to study

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IvanovPetrovSidorov June 29, 2012, 7:56 p.m.    

That's because they send them to exclusive private schools. State education in England for the vast majority of people is abismal.

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Jerry48 July 1, 2012, 7:28 p.m.    

The same opinion about British ( not only football fans) is in
Krakow- their favourite place to pester and harass locals.
Brits definitely are not pigs because it is insult to the pigs.

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Jerry48 July 1, 2012, 7:30 p.m.    

The same opinion about British ( not only football fans) is in
Krakow- their favourite place to pester and harass locals.
Brits definitely are not pigs because it is insult to the pigs.

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Jerry48 July 1, 2012, 7:31 p.m.    

The same opinion about British ( not only football fans) is in
Krakow- their favourite place to pester and harass locals.
Brits definitely are not pigs because it is insult to the pigs.

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Jerry48 July 1, 2012, 7:32 p.m.    

The same opinion about British ( not only football fans) is in
Krakow- their favourite place to pester and harass locals.
Brits definitely are not pigs because it is insult to the pigs.

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paul nicholson July 2, 2012, 5:32 p.m.    

Seems like Russia won tournament for having worst Football fans for their attacks on stewards and fines by UEFA.
Poland come second for their attacks on Russian fans.
England third for their drunken rowdy behaviour.

All should be ashamed.

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