High Archbishop Sviatoslav to ask Pope to grant Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church status of patriarchate

I heartily congratulate the election of this man to this high office. There can be no reason why the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Communion with Rome can be denied a Patriarchate status by Rome. I am not an adherent of the church, but take great interest in its welfare etc. It is absolutely astounding that it is still in corporate existence, despite such historical persecution.

Should not forget the International Federation of Catholic University educational network numbering 1358 institutions. Ukraine is already a member with the school in Lviv.

Unless Lviv City Council chaired by Andrii Sadovyi get bent out of shape because their moral character was questioned by the Catholic University over hateful statements made by Svoboda at rallies in Lviv. Tax status of lands is a good wedge to threaten a school with. Will they pay their taxes or teach moral theology?

God bless Catholic schools.

I agree with Martin. UGKC must remain in union with Apostolic See.

The Ukrainian GC Church and the Ukrainian Orthodox Churches should reunite into one Ukrainian Christian Church that we had when Ukraine was known as Kyivan Rus'. We do not need the "blessings" of other Christian Churches any more than the Church of England, yet we are more close to true Christian teachings than the Church of England. The reunited Church could also use use a spritual revival and a bit of reformation to return to the Churches early pre Byzantine Christian roots.

You Jan Hus who Taras Shevchenko dedicated his poem HERETIC to? He was an interior church reformer the schismatic now claim.

Christianity in the modern Uniglobe - requires a unified global voice. One that has intrinsic authority, one that all and sundry recognise and refer to. Moscow is in effect a nationalist, state run organisation, that is so historically - and remains so, it does NOT have an impartial, global outlook free of governmental influence or diktat - whether Tsar of Komisar. The only voice - despite human faults and fraities, is that of the historic and Apostolic See of Rome. Now, it is WELL KNOWN, that the Moscow Patriarchate is actively trying to build itself up as a replacement New Rome, hence its machinations within the Orthodox world, and trying to disarm the stupid Roman Curia et al by beguiling clever softly spoken words and concerts, that the present Bishop of Rome soooooo wantonly craves. Moscow treats Constantinople with derision because it perceives itself as far mightier in every respect. Moscow seeks to divide the Unity of Catholicism, bribing the papacy with ultimately empty promises, and in doing so, demoralizing the Eastern Catholic Churches, that have SUFFERED sooooo much for their loyalty to Rome historically. I would WARN Benedict and the Curia - DO NOT MAKE ANOTHER MISTAKE, lest HE IS CALLED INTO ACCOUNT for HIS BETRAYAL. I am a Latin Rite adherent

No one in the real world will EVER grant Ukrainians anything except slavery! Don't ask for what is Yours & Ours! Where are your balls? Start acting like a Patriarch or resign! We don't need another beggar.

A beggar we are not but humble like Christ we must be.

Why throw eggs when we can dazzle the world with pysanky?

Ukraine and the Byzantine orbit reacts from a ground swell up, grass roots.

Rome and the Western media is use to trickle down economics.

and if the Pope says NO because Moscow may become angry or because Ukrainians haven't proven themselves worthy or... (there's always the old stand by : NOW is NOT the time...wait until things settle down in several hundred years..)

the Pope said NO to Josef Slipiy because Ukraine was not "free" then

when it became free the answer was NO because it was only Lviv, Patriarch has to live in Kyiv

and Now .....???( Moscow Patriarch may become angry & persecute Roman Catholics in Russia...)

The answer is obvious – if the answer from Rome is still NO, the UGCC should secede from Rome and join with the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church - Kyiv Patriarchate.

Would we lose a few to Roman-Catholicism? Sure, but so what? As it is, we are losing them now because of the lack of Patriarchate status. We are clearly running out of opportunities. We are the largest Eastern-rite Catholic Church and it’s time to make some of our own threats. I’m tired of being used as a political chip and am ready to march on Rome! Now if the Basilians would only go along….

BRAVO! I think that most Ukrainians would support this position, I certainly do. In fact when Ukraine became Christian the split in the Church had not yet occured and we should unite our Churches and be an example of Christian unity for the Christian world. To most Ukrainians that I know, being Catholic or Orthodox is not so important as our rites and beliefs are so similar and we all believe in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior and the Son of God. The good thief who died along side Jesus on Calvary was not baptised yet Jesus told him, today you shall be with me in Paradise.

Baptism of desire, from the inside out not outside in.

The Russian church state symphony.

SAINT Alexander Nevsky

Basillans, please explain less we think you are speaking of South America. One thing about the RCs, when they want to hush something they use their seal of silence. Do you know anything or have links? Obviously the glorification of Metropolitan Andryj Sheptytsky is a casualty.

I marvel at the majority of remarks made here. Look, people: step back and look at yourselves. You sound so much like the Jews in the time of our Lord Jesus Christ, wishing for, even demanding, more power... waiting for a Messiah (here, on this website, substitute the word Patriarch) who will lead them into greatness with great triumph. Ha. I have to chuckle. Jesus does not work that way. Greatness comes from within. If our bishops and metropolitans and mitrats would think less of their power and conferences and hotels and grand entries into concert halls, and more about the souls being lost by the day in their own home eparchies, our Church would indeed be great -- our holy Ukrainian Catholic Church. (PS And let's stop with this "Orthodox in union with Rome" nonsense. The Orthodox are not yet in union; Ukrainian Catholics are.) Let us strive to become more holy as individuals, and more holy in trying to serve those under us, and more holy in really listening to our beloved Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI. God bless all of you.

We should be more like our Holy Father in Heaven. Jesus told us not to call any man on Earth "Father", He said that we are all brothers and are called to love and serve one another. Jesus Christ is the Head of the Church, not the bishop of Rome.

Protestant, selective retention.

Is someone who needs to ask for permission will represent Ukrainian people? Is like president we have today he also keep asking for permissions. Looks like both of them think Ukrainian people are stupid. Russophiles like this type of debate but they got religion from us and many more things including European culture. Otherwise they still will be mongol-fins.

You are quite right in most respects, however, the "European culture" in the case of the Russians only runs skin deep. Unfortunatly the "European culture" never penetrated Russia too deeply, neither did Christianity. In most respects the Russian people still behave as serfs and are treated as such by their leaders, alas.

And your point about Ukrainians?

You must be one and the same person, the one who always writes obscene so-called poetry... all in the same stupid style...Please Kyiv Post, how can you in all honesty and in all respect, publish such drivel from such idiots... Such stupidity discourages all sane people from even a one word comment. Really, you cannot be a serious newspaper when you allow such porn to appear on a serious topic.

UNIATE

whinging!

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do i have to explain further

this precious UNIATE PLEA;

uniate shit-popaganda is rife, allright

but

any scent of criticisam

of uniate toxic propaganda

which is ANTI-UKRAINIAN

and ANTI-SLAV

is met with censorship!

pathetic, pathetic,pathetic

KYIV POST shame on you

KYIV POST shame on you

KYIV POST shame on you

the imbcile below should be censored

just another UNIATE prissy...

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