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Yanukovych backs decisions stripping Shukhevych, Bandera of hero titles

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Aug. 4, 2011, 1:06 p.m. | Ukraine — by Interfax-Ukraine
Kherson, August 4 (Interfax-Ukraine) - Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has said he does not call into question the court resolutions stripping Ukrainian Insurgent Army commander-in-chief Roman Shukhevych and Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists leader Stepan Bandera of the Hero of Ukraine title, awarded to them by former President Viktor Yuschenko posthumously. When asked by journalists in the Kherson region on Thursday whether or not he thought that the Ukrainian opposition's statements criticizing these court rulings were fair, Yanukovych said: "I have never called into question the decisions made by any courts."

"Order will be restored to the state only after society starts to treat them the same," the president said.

"People themselves become heroes. No one can give them these titles. But if we look at our past history and build our future based on this history, which had numerous contradictions, we will rob our future, which is wrong," Yanukovych said.

The president said he had repeatedly asked contemporaries and historians to assess Ukraine's history.

"This is how I treat these issues," he said.
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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 1:56 p.m.    

Yanukovych does not question court decisions since they follow the dictates of his Administration and/or from his Party of Reprobates. Most judges of any importance are either bribed and/or threatened with sanctions to achieve the desired result. The only possible exception is the Supreme Court but they too have been stymied since the Administration has placed so many obstacles to obstruct that institution from receiving grievances from the general public. As for historians, Yanukovych is not in the least bit interested in hearing from anyone that does not subscribe to his political bias. All of this has resulted in an almost completely corrupted judicial system and a sovok mentality to culture, education and history. Until Ukraine rids itself of these neanderthals dark days lay ahead.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 2:13 p.m.    

sad for Ukraine but very true

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 2:28 p.m.    

I want my master Putin to be declared Hero of &quot;little russia&quot; formerly known as Ukraine

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 12:55 a.m.    

thank you my favorite puppet ...there never was Ukraine, the current status is only an anomaly and after our plans are carried out there will NEVER be a Ukraine for &quot;Ukrainians&quot;

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 3:15 p.m.    

I am pro Ukraine through and through but this Bandrea/UPA thing I am confused about.

Can someone clearly explain, did they really collaborate with Nazis?

If so then I'm sorry but this is unacceptable - Nazi collaborators, no matter what they did should not be given hero titles. Also any soviet collaborators are just as bad.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 9:47 p.m.    

Shukhevych and the Nachtigall Battalion:

Soviet Fabrications about the Ukrainian Resistance Movement

In the Russian Federation, in particular, it is a matter of state policy to denigrate all past and present efforts of Ukrainians to be free in their own independent state.

Thus, it is hardly a surprise—indeed, it was to be expected—that several individuals recently publicly accused the Commander in Chief of the UPA General Roman Shukhevych and the Nachtigall Battalion for crimes they did not commit.

On 23 June 2008 the Russian government again criticized President Yushchenko for his decision to grant an award to Shukhevych whom they identified as a “captain of the SS.” It would have been constructive if the Russians had provided evidence to back their accusations. The commentary also stated that it is absolutely unacceptable to treat “Nazi criminals and the fighters of the OUN-UPA, and the veterans of the Great Patriotic War” as equals. What is particularly interesting to a historian is the Russian objection to “efforts to re-examine the consequences of World War II.”V

The position of Russia’s foreign ministry was restated by Vitaly Churkin, the Ambassador of the RF to the UN at a press conference held on 28 October 2008, during which he went so far as to call Roman Shukhevych “a Nazi.” Furthermore, he said that “throughout the Second World War they,” i.e., the members of the Ukrainian resistance movement, “were part of the Nazi movement…” The ambassador also stated that “the majority of those people who were killing Jews in Babyn Yar were Ukrainian Nazis.VI

How could the Germans have controlled the leadership of the OUN when in July 1941 they had already placed under house arrest the two leaders of the organization, Stepan Bandera and Yaroslav Stetsko, who were then sent to the Sachsenhausen concentration camp in January 1942? Their arrests were followed by mass arrests of other leading members of the OUN.XI

So how did the OUN conduct its collaboration with the Nazis—from inside the concentration camps or from the underground?

On 25 November 1941 the Einsatzkommando C/5 issued an order to its branches, stating: “It has been established with certainty that the Bandera Movement is preparing an uprising in the Reichskommissariat, whose ultimate objective is to create an independent Ukraine. All functionaries of the Bandera Movement are to be immediately arrested and, after a thorough interrogation, secretly liquidated as pillagers.”XIX

It is worth noting that in the German security service (Sicherheitsdienst, SD) report of January-March 1942 the OUN(B) is already characterized as the most active and dangerous.XXII

Since the Russian Ambassador to the UN wildly ascribes the murder of Jews in Babyn Yar to Ukrainian nationalists, in order to provide true and accurate information I shall simply quote the findings of the Nuremberg Trials. The report on Kyiv states: “Consequently all Jews of Kiev were requested, in agreement with the city commander, to appear on Monday, 29 September by 8 o’clock at a designated place. In collaboration with the group [Gruppen] staff and 2 Kommandos of the police regiment South, the Sonderkommando 4a executed on 29 and 30 September, 33,771 Jews.”XXVII The account clearly indicates who committed this horrendous crime in Kyiv.

an understanding was reached, according to which the members of the Nachtigall and Roland battalions would swear allegiance only to the Ukrainian state, not to Germany or Hitler.XXXVII

The members of the Nachtigall Battalion headed out eagerly to the Soviet border, hoping the war would start soon, since they knew about the massive arrests being conducted by the NKVD and the deportations of the population from Western Ukraine to Siberia. Between 1939 and 1941 some 550,000 people were deported.XXXIX As expected, the German attack on the Soviet Union began on 22 June 1941. Without having taken part in any battles, the Nachtigall Battalion crossed the Soviet border on its way to Lviv, where it arrived in the early hours of 30 June. Following instructions, the battalion gained control over several strategically important objectives: railroad stations, gas and electric stations, St. George’s Cathedral, and the city hall.XL

In Lviv the soldiers of the Nachtigall Battalion saw the results of the Soviet reign of terror. The prisons were filled with mutilated and decomposing corpses of prisoners.XLI Several members of the battalion who went to Brygidky Prison found the corpse of Yurii Shukhevych, their commander’s brother.XLII

http://www.day.kiev.ua/290619?idsource=277652&amp;mainlang=eng

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 10:15 p.m.    

During his speech at an expanded session of Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB), which was held on 29 January 2009, the president of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Medvedev, revealed an FSB special operation in a few brief sentences: “An unstable sociopolitical situation persisted in a number of neighboring states, there were continued attempts to enlarge NATO, including by means of granting Georgia and Ukraine accelerated membership in the alliance.

Naturally, all this required precise and well coordinated work on the part of all special security, defense, and law enforcement structures, and quite a high level of coordination of their activities. I must say straight away that on the whole the Federal Security Service successfully carried out all its tasks.”

The Russian special services continue to carry out special operations aimed at undermining Ukraine’s sovereignty and independence. The members of the FSB and Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service were rewarded for their success in isolating Ukraine. In recent months, the number of personnel in the FSB structures that deal with Ukraine has increased by 1.5 times, and this increase is reminiscent of the 1950s, when the underground Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) was active in Ukraine.

In its imperialistic frenzy, which stems from its acute inferiority complex, the Russian leadership, with the help of its special services, is trying to brainwash both the international community and Russian society with its Ukrainophobia, and through the mass media and agents of influence which they control—a certain segment of Ukraine’s population.

Then the disinformation specialists planted another story in the mass media, this one claiming that Shukhevych had received a military decoration from Hitler himself. They were reminded that the only person had ever received a military decoration from Hitler was Himmler. According to documents stored in Germany’s Military Archive in Freiburg, the Commander in Chief of the UPA was never awarded any German decoration.

But the disinformation specialists desperately need to discredit not only General Shukhevych and the UPA but the entire Ukrainian national liberation movement

The mass media in Russia and beyond its borders, which are manipulated by Russia’s special services, have unfolded a frantic smear campaign against the UPA

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/44324/#ixzz0zK1PNVjP

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 3:36 p.m.    

The Bolsheviks and Communist elite were not all Jews only about 40% or 50%

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 9:21 a.m.    

World opinion:

An international commission was set up at The Hague in the Netherlands in 1959 to carry out independent investigations.

The members were four former anti-Hitler activists, Norwegian lawyer Hans Cappelen, former Danish foreign minister and president of the Danish parliament Ole Bj&amp;#248;rn Kraft, Dutch socialist Karel van Staal, Belgian law professor Flor Peeters, and Swiss jurist and member of parliament Kurt Scoch. Following its interrogation of a number of Ukrainian witnesses between November 1959 and March 1960, the commission concluded:

&quot;After four months of inquiries and the evaluation of 232 statements by witnesses from all circles involved, it can be established that the accusations against the Battalion Nachtigall and against the then Lieutenant and currently Federal Minister Oberl&amp;#228;nder have no foundation in fact.[18]&quot;

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 10:53 p.m.    

both &quot;LES&quot; comments pure OUN propagansa.

Worthy as a Ukrainian's excrement behind a bush.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 12:45 a.m.    

Les is totally correct

The Russian Communists killed more Ukrainians before, during and After the war than any other regime including the Germans and Poles combined!

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 6:57 p.m.    

Just ask Poland about Soviet collaboration with the Nazis

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 7:59 p.m.    

Stalin ordered history to be re-written, saying western Ukraine collaborated with Nazis.

To this day, his effective propoganda is still believed.

But this is history.....

Today, this minute,,,,,

Illegal piano voting must be stopped...

STOP PIANO VOTING......and Yanuk is stopped.....as half the Por members never set foot in the Rada......

Article 84 = one man = one vote in PERSON....

Enforce this law......

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 8:09 p.m.    

Go and take your medication and tell your nurse you were a bad boy again.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 8:23 p.m.    

Prove me wrong.....

You are saying piano voting is LEGAL and OK ??

Prove me wrong !!

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 9:17 p.m.    

wrooooooooong!

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 6 p.m.    

Russia was the original and largest collaborator with Nazi Germany by signing the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact in 1938 which gave the Russians the &quot;right&quot; to invade Ukraine in 1939, which they occupied until 1941. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians were slaughtered by the savage Russians. Ukraine had no real army, and could not have done any harm to anyone during this time. Later in WWII Russian partisans employed a tactic of dressing like Ukrainians (UPA) when they committed atrocities to blame it on Ukrainians. The 1940 &quot;Katyn Massacre&quot; was committed by Russians, but blamed on the Germans. I also suspect that &quot;Guest Bohdan&quot; is actually a Russian pretending to be a Ukrainian. So sad...

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 3:33 p.m.    

Historian Karel Berkhoff, among others, has shown that Bandera, his deputies, and the Nazis shared a key obsession, namely the notion that the Jews in Ukraine were behind Communism and Stalinist imperialism and must be destroyed. “The Jews of the Soviet Union,” read a Banderist statement, “are the most loyal supporters of the Bolshevik Regime and the vanguard of Muscovite imperialism in the Ukraine.” When the Germans invaded the USSR in June 1941 and captured the East Galician capital of Lvov, Bandera’s lieutenants issued a declaration of independence in his name. They further promised to work closely with Hitler, then helped to launch a pogrom that killed four thousand Lvov Jews in a few days, using weapons ranging from guns to metal poles. “We will lay your heads at Hitler’s feet,” a Banderist pamphlet proclaimed to Ukrainian Jews.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 12:52 a.m.    

you have this so called pamphlet

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 6:30 p.m.    

always the same old Uke Nazi lies ...

so boring

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 5:51 p.m.    

at the end of WWII.

Be correct please.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 6:16 p.m.    

From Wikipedia: In September 1941 Bandera was imprisoned by the Nazis; in September 1944 he was released.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 12:46 a.m.    

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 4:01 p.m.    

Bandera and Shukhevych fought against the Nazis and the Soviet Army during World War II and for several years afterward. Considered heroes by many Ukrainians, others consider them traitors for fighting against Soviet soldiers.

Read more: http://www.kyivpost.com/news/ukraine/detail/110017/#ixzz1Tyuv3S4y

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 4:32 p.m.    

Confused about UPAs Nazi cooperation!

Have not heard of the 5000 man high (Wet Ukrainian Galichina unit within the German armhy. Threre were lots more of candidates, but most of the men were just to short; poor diete in their grow-up years.

Have not herad of the 60.000 to 80.000 civil Poles savagely murdered in the Vohlynia region; now Western Ukraine, earlier Eastern Poland? Most of the victims being elderly men, women and children Most of the young men were in 1939-41 tken away by Soviets, the remeinder later on by Geramans. Few of victims were shot dead, Most of them were choped up with axes, slaughtered with iron bars, stuck or cut with knives or just tortured to death. Just fantasy talking? Apart of piles of documentation, I do have a Polksh neighbour who managed to esscape this hell. He was then 9 years old and witnessed all this aniamllike cruelty ...perpetrated by now Heroes of Ukraine. Does Germans call their SS tops for their heros?

Shame on you those Ukrainians who wish to call these unhuman beings for their heros! Luckilly there are many, if not most, Ukrainians who deserve all respect and sympathy for their patriotic stance througout the history of this great nation.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 5:12 p.m.    

Bandera - of Separdic Jewish origin, in the mid 1850s converted his great-grandfather - was a dwarf - only 1,52 m.

Maybe this was one of the psychological reasons for his cruelties against women and chlidren and the atrocities against Jewish people ? Inferiority complex resulting of his tiny size and secret Jewish background ?

And it is well known in Munich that in occasions of stress or fear he p...d his pants. The stink from his Munich apartment was notorious during that years and the reasons for uncountable letters of complaint of his neighbours to their landlord.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 5:51 p.m.    

Van the Man is paid by Putin to post anti-Ukrainian diatribes. His words are worthless nonsense.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 6:33 p.m.    

I wouldn*t agree you. Van wrote some interesting things.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 12:49 a.m.    

so says Van the Man alias heh,heh,heh:D yaaaawn they are all the same moronic idiot...don't be fooled again

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 5:33 p.m.    

This is total nonsense. This guy is nuts. Ukraine was occupied by the Russians from 1939-41. The Russians committed all the atrocities against Ukrainians and Poles. Bandera was in a German POW camp during WWII.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 6:32 p.m.    

Between 1939 and 1941 Bandera committed his crimes.

Before 1939 he was in prison because of murder.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 3:30 p.m.    

an uncompromising leader of the militant, terrorist branch of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), Bandera became a Nazi collaborator who lived with his deputies under German protection after World War II began. In preparation for the attack on the USSR, the Nazis recruited Bandera’s followers to act as Ukrainian-speaking policemen and to serve in two Ukrainian volunteer army battalions. By working with the Nazis, Bandera hoped to free Ukraine from Soviet rule and establish his own government there.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 7:54 p.m.    

Nobody believes a word of what you say &quot;Van&quot;, or whatever your real name is. Go back to the Russia where you belong with the rest of the commie collaborators.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 12:50 a.m.    

so says Van the Man alias heh,heh,heh:D yaaaawn they are all the same moronic idiot...don't be fooled again

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 3:33 p.m.    

They fought against both the Communists and Nazis. During WW2 they used or &quot;collaborated&quot; with (used is the better word)the Nazis to obtain weapons with which to fight Stalin. You are aware of who/what Stalin was. They are heroes who bravely fought both evils at the same time and with next to no resources.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 7:48 a.m.    

Hick, they were the best murderers. Even our Nazi SS masters were impressed by the blood savvy killers of its own people. Hick.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 3:40 p.m.    

Of course Yanukovych does not doubt the court decision - He personally ordered the &quot;court&quot; to render the resolution.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 5:23 p.m.    

No one doubts that Yanukovych is a moron.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 6:43 p.m.    

Thank you Mr President for this wise decision.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 12:42 a.m.    

another genocidal communist lackey

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 7:24 p.m.    

Title should read: Yanukonvict backs decisions he ordered!

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 8:24 p.m.    

Бог помагає Українії !

Before you say another word, read INTERFAX-UKRAINE carefully, and again.

This is important KYIV POST please translate thin into simple English for them.

My God, I'm agreeing with Yanukovych!

PRESENTATION IS EVERYTHING !

Ukrainians are hospitable, Ukraine is beautiful, Ukrainian is desirable.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 8:48 p.m.    

The reality is that both Bandera and Shukhevych are remarkable Ukrainian patriots.

The couple of paid Russian commentators on this site who are propagandists... will just have to learn to live with Ukraine's true heros.

They can huff and puff all they like....but it doesn't change the facts of the greatness of Shukhevych and Bandera.

They're diatribes are sooooo boring at this point!

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 9:17 p.m.    

A comment as important as a dog's anal wind.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 10:07 p.m.    

Please stop abusing your dog's anus, you Russian monster.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 9:21 p.m.    

The reality is that both Bandera and Shukhevych are remarkable Ukrainian criminals.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 5:27 a.m.    

Criminals only in the eyes of Moscow! Criminals only because they didn't welcome the invaders. When are you going to answer for starting WWII with the help of Germany? Talk about criminals you Moskali were devils waving the hammer and sickle pitch fork.

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Anonymous Aug. 4, 2011, 9:20 p.m.    

Yanu has almost finished off any remnants of Orange legislation and Tabachnyk will not allow any

mention of the Orange Revolution in forthcoming history texts. Ukrainian nationalism is forbidden

by these Russo lackeys who are lording it over Ukraine.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 5:21 a.m.    

The answer is simple both Yanuk and Tabachnyk must go. The sooner the better.

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Anonymous Aug. 6, 2011, 5:20 a.m.    

After betraying his role as the guarantor of the Constitution, Yanukovych has effectively become a guarantor of corruption — guaranteeing the financial well-being of millions of bureaucrats, government employees and well-connected businesspeople.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 7:43 a.m.    

The Ukraine people had spoken - no more US pair orange traitors. Hence the resounding victory of super leader Yanukovych over the orange mafia daylight robbers, heh, heh, heh :D

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 2:37 a.m.    

Russians suffered under Communism too.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 5:20 a.m.    

They came up with the system as a way to subjugate other nations. No one imposed it on them. They benefited directly from the bounty and stolen lives of innocent people. They suffered because of greed. Unlike Germany and others that paid reparations, they have never even been make to acknowledge their crimes.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 7:40 a.m.    

The only place for the nazi DUPA collaborators is the trash bin of the history. So back to the sewer the nazi collaborators Banduga and Sobakevich go, heh, heh, heh :D

No wonder the ONLY DEMOCRATICALLY elected president in the Ukraine history reversed the illegal ruling by the orange usurper and CIA disciple Yushchenko - the Ukraine people HATE the DUPA nazi collaborators. In fact the majority Ukraine people joined the Red Army and stomped the nazi invaders and their DUPA collaborators into the mud.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 8:35 a.m.    

Ukrainians know that Ukraine is a country, the UNA and OUN fought against the Russian Communists and the German Nazis, that Russian history regarding Ukraine is false, and that electing Yanukovych was a fluke. What is good is that because of Yanukovych the rest of the world is beginning to understand Ukraine's tragic and heroic history.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 9:20 a.m.    

The rest of the world is absolutely not interested in Ukrainian history.

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Anonymous Aug. 5, 2011, 10:50 a.m.    

And thats why Sobakevich wears nazi wehrmaht uniform much like any other DUPA nazi arselicker. LOL :D

Man, the orange xoxols are so retaded, it could be funny if not so pathetic, HA HA HA :D

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Anonymous Aug. 6, 2011, 12:09 a.m.    

The kremlin treats their veterans like trash. Ukrainians do not.

We had times when disabled WW2 veterans were sent away from the public eye. One of the most famous centers for the disabled was located on the island of Valaam , on Lake Ladoga, not far from St.Petersburg, in a former Orthodox monastery.

Out of sight - out of mind.

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