Yanukovych to strip nationalists of hero status

What a good Russian he is.

wrong - he is a good Ukrainian !

Yanukovich - the Putin's lapdog

What would you know about being Ukrainian?

Wrong. Victor is RUSSIAN!!!!!!!!!!!

Yanukovich is a Russian Jew, his name was changed from Yankovik to Yanukovich. His Father was Jewish his mother was Russian.

This is a smart choice by Mr Yanukovich. If the nation of Ukraine is to heal itself of bitter divisions between East and West, then it is wise to revoke a supposed "Hero" status from contoversial individuals who at best represented a tiny pocket of Ukraine.

Yanocovych should now change law to make himself national hero.

Regardless how many Ukrainians were Nazis between 1941-1945,the problem is that Petlura and Schukevich symbolize a distressingly large fraction of Ukraine today.

He can revoke the hero status, but he will never erase the name and memory of Bandera. Slava Ukraini!!!

The only sensible decisions. Nazi can never be a 'hero' of Ukraine. Go for it, Viktor!

And get rid of Stalin too. Go for it Victor!!!!!!!!!!

there aer no Stalin statues in Ukraine...fellow Canadian.

The next step should be to tear down Bandera's statue in Lvov.

asap !!!!

While at it also tear down Stalin statues.

Maybe later. Drink some good Russian vodka Putin gave him.

It only makes sense to strip the hero title from Bandera. To do this will improve relations with Poland and Russia. There is no other way. Poland is very displeased with Ukraine about recognizing Bandera. As the article stated, many women and children were killed in Poland as a result of the mad schemes of Bandera. It seems that only the radical nationalist Lviv diaspora who lived in one of the most poorest regions of Ukraine would represent such a minority opinion.

Bandera is basically supported by the UNA-UNSO-originally a Lviv organization and is still heavily western Ukrainian. It reflects the alienation of western Ukrainians and why the diaspora is so out of touch with the rest of Ukraine-let alone Europe.

People from every region of Ukraine fought and died with UPA. The names of over 300 murdered by the NKVD have been memorialized in the village of Bazar. You Mr. Lang are an idiot.

As the last presidential election clearly showed, Western Ukraine is pro West and is ethniclally Ukrainian. Eastern Ukraine is inhabited by Russians who were settled in Eastern Ukraine after the Genocide committed by Moscow against the Ukrainian people which murdered almost all of the ethnic Ukrainian people in Eastern Ukraine. That is why almost all of the Western Ukrainians recognize the heroism of the UPA and Bandera, whereas the Russian Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine do not. For Eastern Russian Ukrainians the invasion of Ukraine by the Soviet Red Army in driving out the Germans was a liberation, for Western ethnic Ukrainians the invasion of Ukraine by the Soviet Red army was the exchange of one evil occupier by another even more evil one.

Stop pretending with this BS fake English name.

You are not fooling anyone.

Absolutely right!

As I thought at one time that you might be intelligent enough to know reality, now I see you don't know about the history of Ukraine in those times, before and after. Time to go back to the books.

Polish concerns about Bandera are legitimate and should be discussed on a bilateral national reconciliation basis with Ukraine.

But Russians should shut the hell up about Bandera, because they have no case whatsoever against him other than ethnic hatred for Ukrainians.

It will not change a thing.

The 'controversy' for those anti Ukrainians over Bandera will always be there.

For the Bolshevik Russians to admit the truth about Bandera is to admit there complicity in high crimes against humanity. The name and memory of Bandera will never sleep. The protestations only go to awaken the true Ukrainian soul.

The differences between Bandera and Stalin?

-Stalin starts to collaborate freely with Nazis 2 years before Bandera who was in a Polish jail at that time. Bandera started to collaborate with Nazis when he was freed during the criminal invasion of Poland by Hitler and Stalin

-Bandera stopped to colaborate with Nazis 2 weeks after Stalin when he was arrested by Gestapo in July 1940 and put in a collaboration camp in Germany till the end of the war

-Bandera spent all the war time jailed in the same concentration camp than Stalin'son, when Stalin was free and celebrated...

and Bandera got 2 brothers killed in Aushcwitz concentration camp

The Ukraine should not have upset Poland and try to make Bandera a hero. I am Polish so I think I can speak for us who are pretty angry with your government right now which had no right to make that kind of decision. Many women and children were killed at the hands of the murderous Bandera. Doesn't say much for the Ukraine to make him a hero does it?

Remember Actcja Wisla!!!! Dont tell us about your Polish anger. You have no moral right to judge anyone but yourselves.

You can thank Bandera for Akcja Wisla. What did you expect, after Banderas murdered tens of thousands of innocent Polish civilians? You have no moral right to judge anyone too.

As for collaborating with the Nazis -NO one was as obnoxious as the Poles who demanded during their collaboration that the Nazis let them have Ukraine from Sea to Sea and the Poles would let the Nazis have Russia! An outraged Hitler worked out a better deal with Stalin and put the Poles in their place but those fools NEVER learn ...do they?

You sir are making this up.There is no proof in what you said

Ukraine did not TRY to make Bandera a hero. BANDERA IS A NATIONAL HERO OF THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE whether Ukraine's neighbors or world opinion like it or not. He will ALWAYS be a Ukrainian national hero who was murdered by the Soviet Russian KGB for his fight for Ukrainian national liberation which now is at risk.

Perhaps you should remember that there were many atrocious crimes committed by Poles against Ukrainians throughout the centuries, and especially after the war in Western Galicia during the time that UPA was active.

Both sides committed instances of heavy crimes. Reconciliation is a two-way street.

There were many atrocious crimes committed by Ukrainian cossacks against Poles throughout the centuries. And UPA killed 100,000 Polish civilians during the war.

Have you read your history where Ukrainians after battling with Poles took arms along with the Polish fighters to fight off Nazi and Red Army forces? Or is this something you weren't purposely taught about?

Yanukovych, cannot strip Bandera of his Heroism. Bandera was, is and always will be a Ukrainian national hero no matter what Yanukovych does.

Putin's Banderite father,

Photo of Putin's father working with the Nazis to put an end to the Stalin/Communist menace to the world

http://thumbsnap.com/v/rfPcZPRI.jpg

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Bandera flick,

Below is a link to the Ukrainian National TV Channel 1 showing a video that they aired on Bandera. Please note that it runs well over 1 hour.

http://1tv.com.ua/video/doc/index.php?id=ts

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Genocidal warmongers,

Molotov-Ribbentrop-Stalin: Nazi Communist Collaborators way before Bandera

http://thumbsnap.com/v/0SEfNk7l.png

Here's information about Putin's father working with Nazi's

http://siteground239.com/~ukrainee/forum/index.php?topic=850.msg7211#msg7211

Want more education? http://siteground239.com/~ukrainee/forum/index.php?topic=6194.0

Let's see what documentation there is to disprove what is found in the second link. Want more? I have plenty if you want more.

http://siteground239.com/~ukrainee/forum/index.php?topic=6162.0

Hey people,UKRAINIANS look around:We still have Ukraine due to such heroes like Bandera,Shuhevuch,Petlura,Konovalets,Shevchenko,Lesya Ukrainka,Vasyl Stus,Ivan Bogun...And everyone struggled by his own,and everyone dram about INDEPENDENT UKRAINE,but not on the sheet of paper.

Why present ukrainians allow to insult proud of nation ?!

Europe still does not recognise the famine of 32-33 so how will they recognise any hero of Ukraine that angers russia when many in europe are fauning over russia in order to get cheaper gas supplies.....After all Europe was buying the cheap food taken by Russia from Ukriane so they try to hide there guilt by denying it ever happened.....Europe still hides in its History the relations between Nazi Germany and the Soviet union prior to Germany attacking.

strictly your view alone!!

Soon, the hero reward will be revoked and all discussions about this will be finished. And you silly little diasporia from Lviv can go back to your cushy little job in America

"Stictly your view alone". How on earth do you know what everyone else's views are then? Europe's hardly a neutral arbitrator when they are concerned about their gas supplies from Russia.

what the hell do YOU care you stupid wannabe Uke??? You didnt want to live in Ukraine....your family LEFT it!!!!!!!!

You live in Toronto and have never been outside of Canada, youre a wanna be Russian who doesnt even speak the language. Igorchik.

Chornyvolk?

It's the view of ten of millions. Time to start studying about what you don't know what you're talking about. Maybe it's time you went back to Russia and bow to your wannabe Stalin, Heir Putin. He's doing a good job at cutting Russian human rights, as Stalin did.

Wakey wakey. Europe does in fact recognise the famine of 32-33. What they declined to accept, quite rightly so, is Yushenkos describing it as genocide. As for the rest of your statement, perhaps you could share your views more widely, let a few of the "we want to join the EU" brigade now what they are buying into. A single european state controlled by Brussels and.........wait a minute, isn't that what we had in USSR?

Yushchenko had no moral right to unilaterally declare Bandera a 'Hero of Ukraine'. Yushchenko I had already been defeated at ten polls and was going to lose office. His decision is another example of policies and actions that divided Ukraine and brought Ukraine into international disrepute. Whats next Iraq will declare Saddam Hussein a hero of Iraq. Bandera a should have been tried as a war criminal along with the other NAZI sympathizers who inflicted pain and death of innocent people. Ukrainians, Polish and Russian alike. This is not a Russian versus Ukraine issue it is an issue of humanity vs fascism. Ukraine must reject the later and embrace the first. It must not hero worship facesit who commit horrendous crimes in the name of nations.islm

What about the Racism of the Soveit-Union destroying millions of Ukrainian lives? There should be trials for Communist was criminals and Communist criminals who operated up to 1991!! They should face justice, as they committed much more destrucition then the Nazis in 80 years!

Strongly agree! Fascists became history. But Communists are still in power in Moscow , in Beijing, in Korean, in Vietnam and in Cuba.

They are all originated from Moscow. Their leaders are all shameless liars and brutal killers! They are the enemies of human beings!

Communists are not Russians, not Chinese, not Koreans, not Vietnamese, not Cubans, they are ghosts, monsters!

The most important is to " Bring Communists to justice!!!"

You are being too simplistic, generalising and evasive on this issue.

In hindsight, it appears the humanity you refer to was reserved exclusively for the occupiers of Ukraine and not for the millions of Ukrainians killed and imprisioned whose only 'crime' was to defend their human rights, such as national integrity and use of their language.

You also give Bandera too much thrift for being a Nazi, especially when he himself served two years in a German concentration camp and had two brothers murdered by the Nazis.

Maybe you should try spewing your anti-Ukrainian sentiments elsewhere where you might have a more appreciative audience.

NAZI sympathizers? Perhaps you purposely missed this.

As the UPA could destroy the Jews, when Jews were in the UPA "

serg_iv_lavr, 14.04.08 17:07:27, (id: 288545)

"Moses Fishbein: "The Ukrainian Insurgent Army was the only army that fought for Ukrainian independence. A provocation, nonsense, as if to UPA destroying the Jews. Tell me, how the UPA could annihilate the Jews, when Jews were in the UPA?" I was familiar with the Jews who served in the UPA. For example with Dr. Abraham Shtertser, after the war he lived in Israel. And Samuel Neumann (pseudo "Maximovich)? And Shay Varma (pseudo" Fiddler ")? A Roman Vinnitsa (pseudo" Sam ")? A others? And Stella Krentsbah? Born in Bolehove. daughter of a rabbi, Zionist, was friends with a daughter of Greek-katolitskogo priest. 1939 graduated from the Philosophical Faculty of the Lviv University. Since 1943, has been in the UPA. In the spring of 1945 she was captured NKVD, to meet with a liaison in Rozhnyatov. prison, humiliation, torture, the death penalty. rescued her by the rebels. In the summer of 1945 it proceeded with the rebels in the Carpathian Mountains. October 1, 1946 Stella Krentsbah gets into the British occupation zone in Austria. got to Israel. She worked in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Jewish state . In his memoirs, Stella Krentsbah wrote: "The fact that I now live and all their strength 38mi Over a span of years have given freely to Israel, I am grateful, perhaps only God and the UPA. Member of the heroic IAN I became 7.11.1943 year. In our group, I counted 12 Jews, including 8 doctors ... "I would hope: the Ukrainian state would call them all by name. I hope: they were those who were not ethnicity Ukrainians who fought for the independence of Ukraine, the Ukrainian state will name their heroes." Best thing to do is research and read about what obviously seems something you don't know about.

This it not going to change anything. Yanukovych is a fool if he thinks he can white wash the injustices committed against Ukrainians and tell a new generation of young people how to think.

This decision by Yanukovych to reverse Bandera's hero status will merely go into the history books as another act of repression committed against Ukrainians.

The legacy of Bandera as a Ukrainian freedom fighter can never be eliminated.

Yanukovych tells "new generation of young people how to think"? Are you serious?? That's the ONLY thing that Yushchenko dedicated his reign to. And the 95% of voters who placed their ballots against Yushchenko didnt see Bandera as a "freedom fighter"...

The right thing is being done. Bandera who is represented by the radical UNA, those living in Western Ukraine and the diaspora only represent 15% of the country. This in no way represents the entire country. A revoking of Bandera's hero status only makes sense.

Cherkasy5, a supporter of Yanukovich obviously will agree although his views seem to change by the week and can no longer be a trusted source for news.

Pardon me, Cherkasy5's stance has ALWAYS been the same. The opposing views are those of some twat pretending to be Cherkasy5. Normally one would expect this to be Anthony van der Craats, a failed Australian politician of limited intelligence, but it seems lately that several Putinesques have joined in the game.

Anthony Van Der Craats. Just to let you know your photo is going to be appearing on milk cartons soon, as a wanted man by the Melbourne, Australia police department. Perhaps they can add charges of impersonation others, because you don't have the male organs to act as a man and use at least "ukrtoday". You destroy an entire serious discussion by impersonating others. Maybe you can find a forum that children comment on, so you can feel more comfortable in, because this is no playground for immature children. If Brian Bonner the editor in KP is still employed here, whomever wants to complain about Anthony Van Der Craats, which I know for a fact mr Bonner is already familiar with Craats from the past. Also fix this comment section to where you must register and that will correct the issue with impersonating others.

Russia,Poland and the EU have the only right to view and explain Ukrainian history??? and not the Ukrainian people???

Russia had 1 million soldiers in ROA fighting with Hitler, where is the noise about that? Russia is the representation of modern day Fascism, not Ukraine. Poles and Russians hate Bandera because he stood in their way of destroying Ukraine.

They both should be removed. Quietly, no fuss. This mass murderer of Poles, Russians, Jews and Ukrainian achieved nothing and got his comeuppance.

You forgot Germans you moron. Bandera also attacked Nazi Germans as well as Poles who murdered Ukrainians and deported hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians from Western Ukraine to Eastern Germany, and Soviet Russians who persecuted not only Ukrainians but also Jewish religious people. Collaborators with Soviet Russian monsters who were murdering innocent Ukrainianas, just because they loved their country, were also fair game for those who were fighting for the liberation of Ukraine from foreign oppression regardless of their ethnic background. Ukraine's enemies just like you, of course, have always smeared Ukrainian freedom fighters who were only protecting and defending their own country and because Ukraine did not become a free country until 1991 the butchers and former occupiers of Ukraine tried to revise history to suit their own hegemonistic realities.

Poles who murdered and deported thousands of Ukrainians to Germany? You must be insane! Bandera didn't attack anyone because he was imprisoned in Sachenhausen. In the same time, his forces brutally massacred tens of thousands of innocent polish and jewish women, men and children. Bandera forces collaborated with Germans from 1939-1941, and in 1944-1945.

Learn your history!

After the West Europeans study the truth about Bandera, they too will recognize him as the Ukrainian national hero that he was and is. The real question is why were the West Europeans so quick to get on the Russian bandwagon of smearing Bandera, knowing full well that he was murdered 14 years after WW II by a Soviet Russian KGB agent in Western Germany living freely as a Ukrainian emigre???

Get your facts straight!!!

The KGB agent who killed Bandera was not Russian. He was Bohdan Stashynsky a true blue WESTERN UKRAINIAN from the Ivano Frankivsk region.

He murdered Bandera in Munich.

He was a Soviet Russian KGB agent, his ethnicity is irrelevant. Or put it another way, he was a tool of the Evil Muscovite Empire. Got it now?

Today, it is said that Yulia Tymoshenko has Jewish blood. SO WHAT! She is a Ukrainian patriot, we could use a lot more Jews like her!

Born to a family of villagers not far from Lviv he completed his early education in 1948 and studied to become a teacher at the Lviv Pedagogical Institute. Stashynsky's family were supporters of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, UPA. His three sisters were members of the organization. In 1950 he was arrested for traveling without a ticket on public transportation to Lviv from his village. Upon accepting a position of informer he was released. Through his sisters he infiltrated the workings of the UPA and forwarded information to the MGB.

Stashynsky, received the instructions to carry out the assassination directly from the headquarters of the KGB in Moscow. At that time, Alexander Shelepin was Chairman of the State Security Committee at the Council of Ministers of the USSR. The assassination was known to and approved by the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR, Nikita Khrushchev.

In 1957, the KGB trained the 25-year-old Stashynsky to use a spray gun that fired a jet of poison gas from a crushed cyanide capsule. The gas was designed to induce cardiac arrest, making the victim's death look like a heart attack. Stashynsky used the weapon to kill Lev Rebet in 1957. On October 15, 1959 he used an improved version of the same gas gun to assassinate Stepan Bandera in Munich.

Stashynsky was honoured by Moscow with the Order of the Red Banner by Shelepin for his work and given his final assignment to kill Yaroslav Stetsko. Stetsko, also living in Munich was a prominent anti-Soviet Ukrainian nationalist leader and also the President of the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations. He was to be assassinated in 1960, but it could not be perpetrated for reasons which have as yet not been clarified

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Bohdan_Stashynsky

A little correction - Bandera lived under a pseudonym and was hiding - not "living freely" . He was a coward. Most of his family live in Germany, some few in Canada, and enjoy privileges as "Kontingentfluechtlinge", i.e. refugees from Eastern Europe given asylum because of their Jewish faith. The Banderas originally were Sephardic jews from Galicia. Today all of them possess German passports.

It is best if ukraine just accepts that there are still powerful forces within that will do anything to keep the truth buried about the russification of ukraine. Forget about that fact that the USSR made a deal with the devil to allow germany to take poland or at least the western portion of poland. Rebels in the carpthians have always been a difficult population to subdue and this could ignite my trouble ahead for Yanu.

Slava Bohu! Slava Hutsulam! Het voroham z Ukrayiny!

Killing peaceful people is absolutely evil ! No matter in the name of Motherland or in the name "God"!

Slava Banderi!

Slava Ukraini!

Smert Vorogam!

Love people instead country or religion!

More than 90% of wars inhuman history were caused by "Patriotism"-- love country, another 9% were caused by religions or beliefs!

Wake up, barbarian people! killing people has never been just unless it is to stop killing!

It is good that Yanukovych reveals himself as the russian President of Ukraine

And that is absolutely ok for Little Russia. Perfect.

I wish to apologize to all the KP readers, and admit to my shameless anti-Ukrainianism and lies. My name is not even Robert Lang. It's a pseudonym, a cover for my Krelim-inspired and backed work. I am a clown, a dud, who has to pose as someone else and make his living that way. I was trained and taught English professionally to mislead, deceive and mis-inform with pro-Russian, anti-Ukrainian propaganda and false statements. Forgive me.

Again a fake. You are Captain Ukraine and a nationalistic clown.

You can be recognized by your pidgin English.

You are not Mr Robert Lang.Dont be a retard

I and I think many people enjoy his articles.They seem to be right and he is correctly guessing it seems Yanu's path toward Russia.

Ukraine is a mess right now and Mr Lang has some fresh ideas.

Attention Ukrainian nationalists:

Poland was friendly toward the Juszczenko and his policies. We even presented him with Bogdan Chmielnicki's bulawa because we thought he was worthy of it and Kuchma was never considered trustworthy. Then at the end of his term, he ruins it all by stiring up controversy and giving this honor to Bandera. I have family that was massacred in Wolyn by the UPA. I understand there were massacres carried out by Poles on Ukrainians, but giving this award only serves to divide Ukrainians. Those that considered Bandera a hero still do and those more numerous Ukrainians that do not consider him a hero still do not. So what has Juszczenko accomplished? Nothing - he only makes things worse with everybody. What else could he do to anger neighboring countries in both the east and the west? This was a bad way to leave office.

The Ukraine should not have upset Poland and try to make Bandera a hero. I am Polish so I think I can speak for us who are pretty angry with your government right now which had no right to make that kind of decision. Many women and children were killed at the hands of the murderous Bandera. Doesn't say much for the Ukraine to make him a hero does it? And I also thought a hero is supposed to be for the whole country? Anyway, from what I know, Bandera has too much blood on his hands.

AK has plenty of blood on its hands, and the Polish 2nd Republic murdered innocent women,mean and children during its pacification of Western Ukraine. PL likes to think itself innocent of everything in WW2.

UPA murdered tens of thousands of innocent women, men and children during genocide in Western Ukraine. UPA is a source of shame for Ukrainians.

You lie.

I think I've told you once already that you didn't get taught well, about those times. Why didn't they tell you that after what happened between Ukrainians and Poles, that Ukrainians fought side by side with the Poles to battle other foreign forces. Or is it you don't want that known?

You want to know the real history of OUN-UPA and Stepan Bandera?

http://siteground239.com/~ukrainee/forum/index.php?board=18.0

To understand why the kremlin has been promoting disinformation and propaganda against Bandara, (for over 70 years) one has to listen to the following:

ORIGINAL RECORDING OF SPEACH BY STEPAN BANDERA FROM 1959:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E23fpnYajU