Moscow government will never recognize Holodomor because they don\'t want to end up paying contributions for crimes committed on Ukrainians.

It is a start to recognize this terrible act. It is too bad it is only on the Ukrainian side. It would do a lot for Russia to officially recognize this and condemn what Stalin did. But unfortunately I\'m sure there are a lot of Soviet Nationalist in both countries who believe Stalin did the right thing and wish for a leader of his type to return.

Who thinks Stalin did right thing? Perhaps NKVD and KGB members.

The Ukraine and Russia have a long history going past the Soviet Unions history. I have always considered Ukrainians and Russians as the \"same \" shared heritage and culture. I believe it\'s best for both nations to have a good relationship and reject extreme nationalism, both nations leaders have been playing the nationalism card in their own political intrests. Stalin is not just hated by Ukrainians, he\'s also hated by many REAL communists around the world including myself. He destroyed real communism and FEMINISM in Russia. The first Russian communists were the leaders of the world in feminism and womens rights, Stalin destroyed that and abolishied the Women\'s Government Organization which was the first of it\'s kind in the entire world. My nation of the USA is more corrupt than you realize, socialism and Russian - Ukraine friendship can build 2 great nations.

Why is this guy \"Mike\", real name Ivan, posting here all the time... is he on KGB payroll?

Ivan, I mean \"Mike\", you need to find yourself a Russian forum were you can blabber with other Russians about the old good days when Russia had some clout. There will never be another Soviet Union, not with Ukraine or any other country. There are too many intelligent people in Ukraine to see through all the gibberish you\'re writing. So go back to Kremlin and tell them you\'ve failed and need another job. : )

I agree, Ivan is a fool.

Ukraine\'s star is rising. There is no doubt, like it or not, Ukraine is already one of the leaders of the EU. There are very few nations on earth which have survived mass genocide and have become prosperous. Not rich and arrogant. But not poor and in despair either. Ukraine is doing just fine. A nation which embraces historical truth leads itself to a brighter future.

The Holodomor was a great evil against the Ukrainian People - No one will stop the truth from being witnessed.

There are people like Soviet Loving Puti and the KGB who would like to have some bogus Union...

Uh uha hu the Soviet Union is history and it\'s so sad it\'s the greatest tragedy of the century. What if the KGB government collapses what will we do then. Oh nO. :) We have to instill fear in our subjects and our neighbors. We have show we are unpredictable and loony, don\'t forget the propaganda.

But those days are over you have to know when you loose you loose!

There is no chance that Ukrainians would want anything to do with a fascist Russian government or some bogus Union with Russia.

Ukraine\'s place is in Europe! It will remain so!

The atheist KGB can poison themselves.

The KGB like to control what the world knows.

But they can only control the media in Russia and its people like Mike and Mike2.

Bark Mike Bark Baw Baw Baw Waw

Dear Guest. Europe will have to want you.

Good that Ukraine can show the way to go. The Orange revolution is such a success that the whole world comes to study the success, like the world went to the Netherlands to study the Polder Model.

Ukrainian scholars invited all over the world to teach the secrets of running a country.

I guess you write from across the ocean, huh? What are you doing there ? Your place is in Ukraine, you should be helping your god blessed nation.

We will be in Europe.

Too bad for Russia no one not even CIS countries take them seriously.
It is Ukraine that does not want Russia.

By the way Russia\'s Population is rapidly decreasing .

But wait Russia has such a good KGB government that it will create a new iron curtain and prevent all its people from leaving to EU or North America.

Too bad it did not do it earlier, before Mike left. So sad Mike wouldn\'t even have internet.

Ok, rubbish. It is Europe that will decide, not Ukraine.

Ukraine population decreasing even faster. Just the country is so fucked up at the moment that they do not even have statistics.

You\'re not Europe, Mike!

Thank for the info.

Ukraine will go into the garage alley of EASTERN PARTNERSHIP. It is like the mediteranean partnership, a club of second class countries clustering around Europe. This is designed to prevent these countries from permanently knocking on Europes door. Like Morocco, Algeria, Tunesia etc.

Every now and then you will see a meeting, veiled promises, cock-teasing.

The USA is pushing for countries like Turkey and Ukraine to join the EU. This way they can destroy the strong european bloc. They were quite successful in this by pushing the accession of Poland. Poland is the main problem in Europe nowadays, and the biggest problem of Ukraine as europeans do not want to repeat the mistake.

The antics of Russia are ludicrous, funny really. That is why the USA laughs when it hears threats from Putin, the same way the USA would laugh if Belarus made some threat. A mouse cannot threaten an elephant.

What Moscow\'s communists did to the people of Ukraine was pure evil. What the Nazis - the national socialists - did in Germany against the Jews was no less evil. But the Nazis were
punished for their crimes against humanity. Moscow\'s ideology never was. In fact, it is glorified in Russia. One way or another, Moscow will pay for it\'s horrible crimes against the citizens of Ukraine. Monetary reparation is only the beginning.

Ukraine is just a victim, eh? Doesnt owe anything to anyone and it is the others that owe to Ukraine.

Bessarabia was given to Ukraine by the... oh... Soviets. For a start, lets give it back to Romania to give the good example.

there it is - the completion of the sovok techniques of deception, denial, distortion, distraction, endless repetition, threats and insults. Here we have an article about the Holodomor. The Holodomor should NEVER have happened. And a couple of little rooskie sovoks show up to say that \"Ukraine owes roosha something.\" For what? Because roosha and Stalin, supported by rooshans, killed Ukrainians \"for their own good\"? That is really outrageous! No expressions of sympathy, empathy, no expressions of regret that this ever happened. Only a foul, evil concern about roosha\'s attempt to continue to dominate Ukraine. What utterly nasty foul people these sovoks are. To get back to the topic - the Monument looks like a good and fitting memorial to the millions that died in the Famine.

For a start lets give kuban and other former Ukr territories to Ukraine!

Dear Elmer, where do the insults come from?

Russian domination attempts is in your paranoia. Worse that domination is what you have now is indifference.

Sympathy to the victims of the famine? of course, only your sick mind thinks is is impossible for Russians to feel sympathy. They feel sympathy aswell for their own people who died in the famine. But no sympathy for the ethnically-politically biased way Yushenko is pushing it.

Who cares what the Russians think?

If you dont care then stop whining all the time that Russians do not agree with the politicising of the issue.

Typical post-orange thinking: we want it all but are not capable of getting it so we get really really angry.

How can you tell that a kremlinite rooskie sovok has shown up? Let\'s see, which of the standard techniques is he using: delusion, deception, denial --- no, it\'s distraction. Whatever he calls himself, whether \"mike\" or \"fromUSAwithlove\", the idea is to get people to \"look at the fuzzy monkey over there.\" The article is about the Holodomor, planned and executed out of maskva, by the sovok union, whose self-proclaimed successor state is roosha. It\'s NOT about Bush, Inuits, Native Americans, red buttons at the White House, real or imagined by kremlinites, nor about Saakashvili. The topic is Holodomor. It happened, it was real, and it deserves, and the millions that were starved to death by the sovok regime deserve, the attention and respect of civilized people everywhere - even if rooshan kremlinites don\'t think so.

No Elmer.

The thread started with: i am so happy to live in a free Canada or so. It is perfectly to the point to ask if the Inuits invited the Grandparents. Maybe there was some blood spilled on the piers before they set foot?

As to the famine: yes it happened. Just do not politicise it. I write this for the sake of Ukraine, as historical misconceptions have a high pricetag in the long run.

The ARTICLE is about Holodomor. The \"historical misconception\" was caused by the sovoks who attempted to hide it, and then subvert the truth about it, and then make it a crime to talk about it. So when Jews remember the Holocaust, it\'s \"politics,\" according to little kremlinite sovoks like you? Remembering and commemmorating the famine is not \"politics\". Remembering and recognizing who CAUSED the famine, and WHY, is not \"politics\" - except for dirty little kremlinite sovok trolls like you. The fact that someone was glad to ESCAPE the FAMINE does not mean that they want to talk about Inuits - except in the mush-for-brain heads of dimwit little kremlinite sovoks like you. You\'re not writing anything for Ukraine - if you were, you wouldn\'t be writing all your drivel. You would HONOR and RESPECT the DEAD, instead of getting your back hairs up and screaming about how roosha\'s not at fault. You need to face the fact that roosha supported Stalin. He did not do it all by himself.

Elmer, you\'re losing your cool. Even though you have a problem expressing yourself in the english language i need to sort out the bad language with maybe some ideas.

I know what the article is about. Before criticising, one should first do his homework, introspect. People tend to take you seriously then.

To honor the dead is not to exploit their death. If i died on this famine i would feel horrible that my death is exploited for political means.

To have the jews remember Holocaust is fine. To have some try to get advantage out of it is wrong. Wrong from a respect point of view, and wrong because it distracts from the NEVER AGAIN priority.

You really seem not to want to talk about the land the whites stole from the indians because this is about you. For info: www.uaine.org

By the way Russia is also on Inuit land :P) Do your research there are still plenty of Inuit in Russia and their language is in danger. So before you talk about North America look at the people Russia terrorized including indigenous people like the Inuit.

Russia should just try to get along with its neighbors. Recognizing the holodomor is a first strep in the right direction. Otherwise Russia is only hurting itself and its reputation among not only CIS but the rest of the world.

To HONOR and RESPECT the dead is not to politicise and abuse their death.

You have a Walt Disney view of history. As if the Russians were supporters of Stalin. Those were difficult times, repressive system. The Ukrainians supporting Hitler etc etc.

What is say is: to be able to accuse, one has first to do his homework.

By the way, why are those whiners in Canada today and did not go back to free and democratic Ukraine after the orange revolution to help rebuild their country?

I am not Russian. I am just against stupidity which seems a huge ressource in todays Ukraine.

The fact is that the Russian government will create a new Slavic state and reconcile our countries. This would be a better solution than NATO. This time all that is really needed is a bribe! Where would be a famine in that?

... ok, i\'ll go on as Mike2.

May be Ukrainians should create something themselves. This country makes me think of African countries: surviving under colonialism. Not surviving under independence. The whiners say that colonialism fucked up everything. The winners say: ok, bad start but we will work hard and honestly and do our very best.

To Hryhoriy, Lviv, Jerry, Canadian Kozak.

The question was: on who\\\'se land are you now? White or Inuit or indoamerican? How was this land conquered? When? With flowers? Did the Inuit invite your grandparents?

Strangely, i got no answers to these questions.