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RIA Novosti: Ukrainian nationalists march in honor of controversial Insurgent Army founder's birthday

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Jan. 1, 2012, 8:03 p.m. |
About 500 Ukrainian nationalists gathered on late Sunday to rally in Kiev in honor of a birthday of Stepan Bandera, one of founders of the WWII-era Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) that fought against the Soviet Red Army and Nazis. Kiev law enforcement officials told RIA Novosti that supporters of the nationalist Svoboda (Freedom) party and the Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists organization were marching from a monument to Ukrainian poet and writer Taras Shevchenko to city's central street of Khreshchatyk.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 8:18 p.m.    

Nationalism is a destructive force. What does it stand for. What is Ukrainian// Are Hutzals Ukrainian, Tartars? Those of Polish descent? Russian Descent? Swedish Decent? Hungarian Descent? Romanian Decent? Is it based on genetics or Geography? If the later which boundaries?

Citizenship not nationalism should be the main focus of concern. Like religion what one groups claims to be Nationalist patriots is anthers act of terrorism. UPA is a terrorist organization in my book.

I have found the UPA and their supporters to be the most aggressive abusive and violent in Ukraine. they certainly do not represent the Ukrainian people.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 8:23 p.m.    

UPA at best represent 5% of Ukraine. The majority of Ukraine does not support them. they are akin to the right wing Tea party in the USA. of the NRA. They like the NAZIs should be banned. they are a group that promote hate and vilification.

They live for hate. The Cold war of over so is the second world war.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 9:25 p.m.    

You don't know anything. You are lumping together UPA, the Tea Party and the NRA? WTF? You are a stupid Russian who conveniently forgets that communist Russia was the biggest Nazi collaborator in WWII. In fact, Putin's father was a Nazi collaborator. Russia starved 10 million Ukrainians in the Holodomor. You forget that too? UPA stands for freedom from Russian oppression. You are a total idiot.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:24 p.m.    

G W Bush's grandfather was very close to Hitler. Even has a photo taken with him. Google Illumanti.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 10:16 p.m.    

You will have to learn to live with the nazis. Nazis are people to.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:24 p.m.    

Dear Guest from the Kremlin,

Kremlinoids always use the term &quot;Nazi&quot; for non-Russians because they are still trying to bamboozle the world into thinking that Moscow did not start WWII in cohorts with Hitler and the Nazis.

Kremlinoids refrain from mentioning that Moscow bombed the civilian women and children in Helsinki - without a declaration of war - in 1939, because those facts are not included in the homo-sovieticus Soviet Encyclopedia.

Homo-sovieticus decided to use the term &quot;Great patriotic war&quot; (6/22/41 - 5/9/45) rather than WWII (3/15/39 - 8/15/45) even though WWII continued for most Eastern European (and Germany) countries until the 1980's or 1990's, because of the systemic occupation and enslavement by Moscow and the Kremlin's KGB.

Unfortunately, for Georgia, the ungrateful barbarians in the Kremlin decided to invade An Eastern European country in 2008 {Georgian territory}, AGAIN!

Georgia lost about 50% of their male population helping to save the USSR.

{Actually, the USSR was just a huge Potemkin village put on the map of our planet - in reality it was just a continuation of Muscovy}

After what Moscow did to Georgia in 2008 - in &quot;gratitude&quot; for saving Moscow, the Georgian &quot;Red Army&quot; veterans must be rolling over in their graves.

Sincerely,

LES

PS If anyone honestly believes that Georgians, Ukrainians, Latvians, or Estonians [etc] were Socialist and wanted to be in &quot;union&quot; with the Moskali, then they would be plainly insanely delusional.

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/118368/#ixzz1hxOk4OCL

Read more: http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/119768/50/page/1/#comments#ixzz1iF9iXuFG

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:27 p.m.    

LES bian. the 2008 war was triggered by the Georgian authorities, they attacked their own people. South Ossetti and Abkazia are now independent states.

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 3:10 a.m.    

Even the Moskali in the Kremlin did not claim that Georgia attacked Abkhazia. I guess that insanely delusional kremlinoids know better?

PS RUSSIA - Chechnya -04-07 1996 Grozny Chechnya under the Russian occupation. Orthodox monk cleaning up bombed out church.

http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP3=ViewBox_VPage&amp;VBID=2K1HZOM4MJMJM&amp;IT=ZoomImage01_VForm&amp;IID=2TYRYDOLOGPJ&amp;PN=2&amp;CT=Search

PPS You must think it OK to murder 100,000's Chechens?

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 3:19 a.m.    

Comment from one whe was there :

It was reported that Russian troops were stealing bathroom fixtures in Georgia. I don’t doubt it.

There was a lot of film of Russian soldiers looting the following:

1. Schools, its amazing how many desks, toilets, and school computers you can fit on a tank.

2. Hospitals, from operating theatre equipment, to the bedpans.

3. Military bases, looting the bunks and toilet fittings, and even the shower cubicles.

4. Private homes, I saw a Russian tank loaded with washing machines, couches, tv’s etc.

5. They even were blowing safes in the banks.

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 3:48 a.m.    

58th Russian army

The answer is evident, if we know that 135th and 693rd regiments of 58th Russian army were already waiting in town of Java (in the middle of South Ossetia, - GT).

On 12th of August, Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper published an article about 23-year old lieutenant Alexandre Popov, who was wounded near Tskhinvali. According to his mother, one week before the war started his son told her that they already are in the mountains from where they could oversee Tskhinvali.

“Rumors about immanent war started circulating during the first days of August” told Private Alexandre Plotnikov of 693rd regiment of 58th Russian army in his interview to Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper. “Nothing was announced officially, but we understood everything when 2 companies of our regiment were sent inside South Ossetia, near Tskhinvali. Later, on 8th of August, alarm went off for the rest of us at 3 am early morning”.

“Permskiye Novosti” newspaper interviewed on 15th of August mother of another serviceman of the same 693rd regiment from town of Perm, Russia, who told her that they “were there from 7th of August, that is, our entire 58th army”. “Vecherny Saransk” newspaper (Saransk, Republic of Mordva, Russia) ascertains that Ukit Bikinyaev from Saransk serving in 135th regiment of 58th army was in Java, South Ossetia, on 7th of August. Some Vitaliy from Vyatka region “called on 6th of August to tell that they are on the move”. He called on 7th of August again, confirming that he was “heading toward mountains”.

On 13th of August “Izvestia” newspaper published an article about Evgeniy Parfyonov from Kazan, Republic of Tatarstan, Russia, who was serving in 22nd special brigade, and who was killed near Tskhinvali. “He called his parents a few days earlier to tell them they may have a problem reaching him on his mobile”.

Many ethnic Ossetians served in 135th regiment too. “Everyone knew that our boys, who served in 135th regiment of Russian 58th army, were staying in Java”, admit Ossetians themselves.

http://russiangeorgianwar.blogspot.com/2009/02/julia-latynina-articles-on-august-war.html

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 3:23 a.m.    

“This was not a spontaneous war, but a planned one”

By Pavel Felgenhauer, columnist for Novaya Gazeta

Today it is perfectly obvious to me that the Russian incursion into Georgia was planned in advance, moreover the final political decision to complete preparation and begin the war in August was, it would seem, taken already in April. And the Ossetians intentionally provoked the Georgians, and any response, tough or mild, would have been used in the capacity of an excuse to attack. And if the Georgians had endured without complaining, then the Abkhazians would have begun, like now, a long prepared operation for the «mopping up» of the upper part of the Kodori Gorge. If a war has been planned, an excuse will always be found. Towards August, a significant part of the ships of the Black Sea Fleet was ready for a lengthy battle outing, units of constant readiness of the Land forces, the airborne-landing forces and the marine infantry were ready to move out, while during the course of the «Caucasus-2008» training, which ended on 2 August, a week before the war, the forces of the military-air forces, the military-sea fleet and the army completed on a locale at the Georgian border the last readiness inspection. Concurrently towards the beginning of August the Railroad troops in Abkhazia completed repair of RR routes, along which this week were flipped over to Inguri tanks, heavy equipment and items of supply for an approximately 10-thousand-strong grouping, intruded without any excuse or formal reason into Western Georgia. Naturally, not for any «national-economy aims», as officially declared Moscow, the rapidly repaired railroad was used.

http://www.robertamsterdam.com/2008/08/pavel_felgenhauer_on_russias_p.htm

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 9:23 p.m.    

Do you now that is bcause your father was a KGB agent operating in Ukrainia on behalf of the butcher stalin who with his muscovites and blood red army loved butchering innocent Ukrainian woman and children...but then turn your eyes to the real fascists in your homeland russia and explain their hatred of all non russians,

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 8:24 p.m.    

They are antisemitic also. They were responsible for the programs against the Jews in Kolomyia and other Western Ukrainian towns.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 8:37 p.m.    

What is Russian?? Mongols ? Finns ? Jews? Germans ?

Nationalism like Putin's Greater Russian Empire building, and Stalin's and Kaganovych's Holodomor and the Molotov - Ribbentrop Pact were responsible for millions of Ukrainian deaths.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:22 p.m.    

Answer: Kyivrus/ Slavic/ Cossacks.

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 5:19 a.m.    

Cossacka are Ukrainian, not Russian.

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 11:37 a.m.    

Azarov is an Anti-Ukrainian from Muscovy and started this process well over a year ago.

Would Israel make a German that only speaks German as their Prime Minister?

Azarov cancels Concept of State Cossacks Development Program

Aug 13, 2010 at 14:46 | Interfax-Ukraine

The Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine has cancelled a Concept of the State Cossacks Development Program 2009-2011, approved by Yulia Tymoshenko's government.

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/politics/detail/78247/50/page/1/#comments#ixzz1iEWfUkho

PS The Anti-Ukrainian government in Ukraine has been trying to destroy the Ukrainian Identity, and rewrite Ukrainian history - for years.

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/119851/20/page/1/#comment-161223#ixzz1iIACGV3K

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Ukrainian.Nationalist July 31, 2012, 4:46 a.m.    

I know what you try to say (Germans were to Jews like Russians are to Ukrainians) but Yanukovych the moskal-lover is actually a Belarusian. Anyway he recognized independence of "Palestine" without

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 9:30 p.m.    

THE ABOVE COMMENT PROVIDED BY POR, SBU AND KGB AS WELL AS THE COMMITTEE TO RELECT VICTOR YANUKOVITCH...LOL

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 9:28 p.m.    

Hmmm I WONDER HOW MANY SUPPORT YOUR HERO STALIN THE GREATEST BUTCHER OF MANKIND YOUR PROBABLY A SUPPORTER BEING THAT YOUR FATHER AND GRANDFATHER WERE KGB AGENTS BUTCHERING INNOCENT UKRAINIAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN NOW GO BACK TO THE KREMLIN AND SHINE PUTINS SHOES ..THAT ALL YOUR GOOD FOR LAPDOG...LOL HA HA HAWWWWWWWW

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 8:51 p.m.    

UPA are not Nazis.

Ukrainians are not antisemitic.

German Nazis and Soviet Russians allies are responsible for teritories they controlled during WW2.

This is racist anti-Ukrainian slander and should be banned from these posts.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:21 p.m.    

Banera and the UPA fought with the NAZIS against Ukrainians and Russians and those fighting Fascism. He most certainly is not a hero. They were engaged in pogroms against the jews. visit Kolomyia and read the history of their actions. If you are in doubt ask the jewish community about them.

He is no role model that is for sure. he is up there with Mussolini

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 5:18 a.m.    

Idiot, Bandera was in German Nazi prison the whole war -- the Nazis and the Soviets killed his whole family.

Bandera is not a Nazi, moron.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:16 p.m.    

Google Tomas Martinez Ukraine. He was a member of the extreme right in America and actively involved with UPA. Wanted by the US authorities. A White supremacist. Illumanti stuff

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 8:34 p.m.    

Nationalism is a positive force and is necessary to unite the people of a country. Bandera has been called a nationalist because he wanted freedom for Ukraine.However, he made many very bad mistakes which have stained his reputation. Nationalism refers not to citizenship but to nationality. In other words Ukrainians are nationalist in their love and devotion to the country of Ukraine, its language, and its culture. It does not imply discrimination against other citizens who live in Ukraine as long as they also work for the good of Ukraine. In looking at Ukraine today I would state that Yanucovidh, Azarov, Tigipko, Firtash, Boyko, Akhmetov are all enemies of Ukraine even though they are citizens. That includes all oligarchs as well. They are united in exploiting the country for their own nefarious welfare, destroying all linguistic and cultural roots of Ukrainians. Its is a mistake to call Banderas Party - Nationalist - if they persist in honoring a man who besmirched Ukraine's history and thus gave Ukraine's enemies a weapon to use against the nation.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 10:39 p.m.    

Ukraine is only for slavic people and the same for russia.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:07 p.m.    

Re Hutzals Slavic and what about the Tartars and Hungarians?

What about citizenship?

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:27 p.m.    

Russian is an adulterated form of Ukrainian. Ukrainians tried to teach Moskali Slavic, but the Moskali created a despicable language and are still trying to force their neighbors to speak it. The Ugro-Finnic barbarian Moskali are still too ignorant to learn Ukrainian.

There were no schools in Moscow until UKRAINIANS opened one.

Lavrenty Zyzany brought the manuscript of his Catechism to Moscow in 1626 and Kyrylo Tranquilion Stavrovetsky the manuscript of his Instructive Gospel in 1627, and Metropolitan Petro Mohyla sent Ihnaty Starushych in 1640 to propose founding Moscow’s first school by the efforts of the Ukrainian clergy.

Read more: http://www.kyivpost.com/news/politics/detail/118802/50/page/1/#comment-156586#ixzz1i4uP0KrY

PS Why do you hate Russian children so much that you will not tell them the truth?

Slavic lands c. 500-550 AD

{Please note that the Slavic language moved North-Northeast}

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Origins_500A.png

Slavic peoples in 6th century

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Slavic_peoples_6th_century_historical_map.jpg

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 8:37 a.m.    

Who will tell schoolchildren the truth?

“The UPA are Hitler’s henchmen who wanted to destroy your great-grandfathers and great-grandmothers, shoot them, and burn them in a crematorium. And now a certain Hans would be living on this territory, and you would be growing potatoes and radishes and sending them to Germany!” These were the arguments the teacher used in the debate with her pupil.

The teacher’s emotional speech shows that she firmly believes in what she is saying and nobody can possibly convince her otherwise. “Bandera fled together with Hitler, he knew he would be killed as a traitor and an advisor or, to be more exact, an ally of Hitler. But they said to him, ‘Get away, you dog, you betrayed your own people and you will betray us.’ And they wasted Bandera, all right!” These words are not the expression of someone’s viewpoint. It is an unfounded fantasy and a glaring distortion of facts.

The question is whether an individual with a totally unprofessional approach has the right to teach and rear children. Harping on the stereotypes of a certain part of the population, this teacher is shaping the outlook of the younger generation. The pupils are reading one thing in textbooks, hearing something else from their teachers, and seeing something else on television. The twisted facts of history, which everybody uses for their own interests, are causing Ukrainians to form a certain attitude to the history of their own state.

http://www.day.kiev.ua/201414/

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Anonymous Jan. 4, 2012, 8:18 p.m.    

By 1450, the Tatar language had become fashionable in the court of the Grand Prince of Moscow {AKA : Muscovy}, Vasily II, who was accused of excessive love of the Tatars and their speech, and many Russian noblemen adopted Tatar surnames (for example, a member of the Veliamanov family adopted the Turkic name &quot;Aksak&quot; and his descendents were the Aksakovs)[10] Many Russian boyar (noble) families traced their descent from the Mongols or Tatars, including Veliaminov-Zernov, Godunov, Arseniev, Bakhmetev, Bulgakov (descendents of Bulgak) and Chaadaev (descendents of Genghis Khan's son Jagatay).

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:05 p.m.    

Nationalism is evil and dangerous as a political tool. What do your classify as being Ukrainian. Is it genetic or based on geography and what boundaries do you use/ What about the Hutzals, Tartas and the host of other nationalities that make up humanity and Ukraine?

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 8:43 p.m.    

The biggest pogroms against the Jews were perpetrated by the Czarist Muscovites. Which is strange because Jews have always supported the Muscovites and slandered Ukrainians. Jews also worked against Ukrainian independence because it was not for their benefit if Ukraine separated from the Muscovites.

As to whether Hutzul are Ukrainians, of course they are. As the Lemkos, the Halychane and central and eastern Ukrainians. They have their different styles of music, embroidery, and speech forms but they are all the people of 'Rus which is Ukraine only. It was Peter the Great in 1921 who co-opted the name Russian to sound like 'Rus so that they could lay claim to Kyiv 'Rus and all territories pertaining to it.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 8:46 p.m.    

Sorry, 1921 is obviously the wrong date. It was 1721.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 8:48 p.m.    

UPA are not Nazis.

Ukrainians are not antisemitic.

German Nazis and Soviet Russians allies are responsible for teritories they controlled during WW2.

This is racist anti-Ukrainian slander and should be banned from these posts.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 10:10 p.m.    

We all know Bandera was a Nazi. Members of the modern-day successor to the UPA, the Svoboda party, even advertise using SS &quot;Galizien&quot; symbols! You can read more about these scum at the following Wikipedia article. Note that they even used a Nazi symbol as their logo until 2003: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ukrainian_Union_%22Svoboda%22

Read more about the Nazis.. oh, I mean Svoboda, here:

http://rt.com/politics/ukrainian-nationalists-behind-waffen-ss-ads/

Anyone who argues in favour of Bandera would have to be either brainwashed (as is the case of the Canadian diaspora) or the scum of the earth.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 10:14 p.m.    

More links about the scum from Lvov who support Bandera:

http://r-u.org.ua/en/news/267-nato-pa-svoboda-party-is-anti-western-anti-liberal-anti-eu-and-anti-semitic.html

http://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/asw2006/ukraine.htm

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:07 p.m.    

Instead of posting links written my the Moskali in the Kremlin, you should be worried about what the Moskali in the Kremlin are doing to the Russian people.

Radiation released from burning Russian nuclear submarine, over 40 Russians killed or deadly wounded

Publication time: 30 December 2011, 14:31

According to the website of a renowned ecology expert in the northern Russian sea port of Murmansk, Yelena Vasilieva, as per Friday afternoon, the fire at the Russian nuclear strategic submarine has been continuing although the authorities in Moscow lied that it has been extinguished. More than 40 Russians have been already killed or deadly wounded as a result of the accident. A short-time release of the radioactivity was registered on Thursday afternoon, Mrs. Vasilieva says.

Mrs. Vasilieva's statement has been confirmed by another Murmansk resident, Dasha Minchenko, who reports as per midnight December 31 that the fire continues inside the nuclear submarine where it has initially started.

Meanwhile, an official Russian group &quot;Murmansk&quot; reported on Russian social website VKontakte as per 7 am local time on Friday:

&quot;The extinguishing of fire on nuclear submarine Ekaterinburg in Roslyakovo is going on. At this point, we know that the flame can not be extinguished, the extinguishing is likely to be delayed until Friday morning. According to official news, the fire was extinguished back at 07:00 pm, but in fact d it is still burning ... .. Do not believe the official news. Those who have has a Geiger counter in Roslyakovo, please measure the radiation and reply. They will never tell you the truth in the news.

Two emergency situations ministry airplanes have flown from Moscow with a robot and fire combat units. Children are evacuated from the North Sea area. It seems that the situation is deplorable. Half of Murmansk fire fighters have been sent to Roslyakovo, off Murmansk, including their vehicles. These are the Fire Brigades # 4, #1 and # 3.

Backup equipment is sent to Murmansk. The governor arrived to the scene. A teleconference has been held between the emergency situations minister and president Medvedev. Military vehicles from radiation and chemical recon have arrived to Roslyakovo, along with many vehicles from the investigative committee. A lot of FSB agents are now present in Roslyakovo. Two trucks with conscripts armed with automatic rifles came to Roslykovo together with the commander of the Northern fleet. It is horrible there! They are extinguishing and extinguishing ... Russian officers are evacuating their families. In Severomorsk, my families' dosimeter if off scale. I called them on Skype, they say it rolls over. Why did the officials give us yesterday's figures of radiation measurements?

My friend the from military said that the Russian emergency situations minister Shoigu arrived in Roslyakovo! The submarine is burning inside, but it still far from the nuclear reactor. But still, the fire is not extinguished, and the situation is heating up! &quot;Blogger 51&quot; website is hell closed. The last post (I can not yet verify) was that that the fire was inside the first compartment of the nuclear submarine. Strangely, the &quot;Blogger 51&quot;are was cut down. There are just the people from Roslyakovo there who are sharing information in the comments.

There are real warheads on board. Before the planned repair works started, the military was requested to unload the ammunition. The navy commander allowed it to remain onboard, and the factory accepted the submarine with the ammo! Anyway, they saved money for unloading. And you boys, you fight the fire, and you burn alive... They turned Russia into the country of Medvedia-Putinia. Lawlessness is everywhere. Vote for Putin, guys.

One person died in fire. According to other unofficial reports, 3 people have been already reported dead.

The following is not clear: if it only burned outside, as they claim, why they couldn't they extinguish the fire for so long? According to the latest info, the dock is sunk into the water so that the boat was lowered to to the depth 30 cm below the water level. Do you seriously think that the burning rubber on the outside hull could not be extinguished during almost the whole day with all means available on shore, and not somewhere in the sea. I tried to take with me as as souvenir a piece of this rubber from the Sevmash Submarine-Buiding Plant. But they forbade it. They explained that it was a high-tech and secret stuff.

First, there came an info that the fire was still in a compartment. But there no more details now.

The submarine is in the dock. The dock is sunk. But the fire is likely to be inside the boat. The submarine cannot be sunk in the sea, since there is a disassembled ship Kulakov nearby.

My male friend works with the emergency situations ministry, he had to be on duty tomorrow, but they called him now, they summoned him urgently, itis very serious there, it's not simple, he reassures me that he's just summoned, pancake, he's summoned not at five pm, but at three am... At present, only the torpedo compartment burns!

My husband is in Roslyakovo. He is from the 6th military company unit. He did not got in touch so far. I've just been in Roslyakovo, the traffic police do not allow anyone to get closer to this whole mess.

All fire fighting units of Murmansk are now in Roslyakovo (6 am local time on Friday - KC), only reserve units remain on duty in the city ... 8 fire monitors are operating there - they all extinguish the fire on outside hull of the submarine, Inside, the crew is fighting for survival in closed compartments. They are waiting for Tagirov and Chapriyan - they are to take a decision on diving the submarine in full (with the dock), to fill the interior of it with water. The prospects are not yet known .. There is lot of work there ... after they extinguish the fire in one place, it starts in another.... Go nuts. So, nothing has been yet finished.

A crew of 58 sailors is inside the submarine. The first links of GDZS have come. The fire is inside the torpedo department. The diving stopped - the fire had gone upwards.

Besides, even if anything terrible happens, the whole country will peacefully celebrating the New Year, because officially, the fire has been already &quot;5 times localized and extinguished&quot;, according to Moscow TV. Media do not tell the truth. Everything is ended for them at 9 pm on Thursday. It's funny.

&quot;The ambulances still come and come &quot;, says Murmansk resident Svetlana Chervyakova at 7:00 am local time on Friday.

Meanwhile, Moscow post-Communist newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda (Truth from Young Communist League) put forward in its Friday issue a version of a deliberate arson.

As reported to the newspaper by its sources, the submarine was set on fire by angry repair workers. The sabotage was said to be carried out in retaliation for Russian defense ministry not paying salaries to civilian workers for a long time, forcing them virtually to work for free for the military.

This version, according to the paper, is now checked by Putin's terrorist gang of the KGB-FSB. It really remains unclear why the fire has spread during a very short time over a large area of 200 square meters, the newspaper writes.

Meanwhile, Russian experts point out that the Russian strategic nuclear submarine Yekaterinburg, which was the basis of the Russian Northern Fleet of Russia, is in fact destroyed and can not be restored.

Department of Monitoring

Kavkaz Center

http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2011/12/30/15562.shtml

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:12 p.m.    

Write a book why don't you and then just post a link.

Bandera was anti Russian and pro NAZI. he killed Ukrainians as well as jews and Russians. Russians are Slavic also.

he is from the far extreme right. Most supporters of the UPA are full of hate. They love to hate and get off with gang attacks. They are at home with the likes of the tea Party and the NRA. Google Tomas Martinez Ukraine. There is one hell fire raiser and supporter of the UPA.

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 2:53 a.m.    

If you understood what you read, your comment may be less inane.

The firat sentence in this article by Russia's RIA Novosti: &quot;Stepan Bandera, one of founders of the WWII-era Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) that fought against the Soviet Red Army and Nazis.&quot;

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 2:54 a.m.    

Forgot to sign that one. :)

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 10:12 p.m.    

Noahs flood was regional not world wide. Planet earth is tens of thousands of years old and has had houndreds of floods in different parts of the world this is why there are different stories legends of a flood it has nothing to do with noahs regional flood. Only white men and women came from adam and eve of Genesis. The son of God Jesus christ is a nordic and when he returns is only coming to save white men and women becouse only white people white man kind came from adam and eve of Genesis.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:02 p.m.    

Your deluded dude. He will be a she. And she will be of mix colour

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:07 p.m.    

Bandera was a visionary for Ukraine...well ahead of his time.

He recognized that Ukraine needed to be independent of its colonial

master in order to fulfill its potential.

He fought with all the tools available to him to achieve this goal.

Today he is honored thru-out Ukraine and the world for his selfless sacrifice.

Todays' adherents to Bandera's dream are doing a remarkable job of

promoting the idea of true Ukrainian independence.

The promoters of real independence go about their work in a calm and meticulous manner; never yielding in their pursuit of real Ukrainian nation as part of the European mosaic.

This perseverence will ultimately pay-off.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:31 p.m.    

Correction:

BANDERA head of crime against humanity,. He should have been tried as a war criminal

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 2:30 a.m.    

Not even one Ukrainian was tried in Nuremberg.

Eventually the Ukrainian National Army (including the Division) was surrendered by General Pavlo Shandruk to the Allies in Austria, was interned in Rimini Italy.

A Soviet three month investigation in Rimini found no war criminals. It was then transferred to England and finally members emigrated to Canada, USA and Australia. The British and Canadian authorities carefully reviewed the Galicia Division and the Divizynyky and cleared them of any war crimes. No war criminals were found in the Division, but a vendetta by Simon Wiesenthal has falsely accused them of war crimes. An intensive investigation was made by the Canadian government.

Hon. Justice Jules Deschenes in his official Report of March 12, 1987, completely exonerated the Galicia Division from any war crimes.

Read more: http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/119768/50/page/2/#comments#ixzz1iFvqv8z1

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Anonymous Jan. 5, 2012, 9:16 p.m.    

he was &amp; was found to be INNOCENT!

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:12 p.m.    

The reason why Moskali {AKA : Muscovy} and commies hate Bandera:

ORIGINAL RECORDING OF SPEACH BY STEPAN BANDERA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E23fpnYajU

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/119768/50/page/1/#comments#ixzz1iF8qfvRD

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:19 p.m.    

Yes, Bandera was a visionary before his time. He had was murdering based on race before Hitler even thought of that idea. What a hero!

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 1:48 a.m.    

Nicely said. Everything Bandera believed in is completely true.

Mention the name Bandera and all the anti-Ukrainian 5th columnists crawl out of the sewers.

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:30 p.m.    

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Nationalism?

What does it stand for?

What is Ukrainian? Are Hutzals Ukrainian? Tartars? Those of Polish descent? Russian Descent? Swedish Decent? Hungarian Descent? Romanian Decent?

Is it based on genetics or Geography? If the later which boundaries? If the former is it maternal or paternal or any of the above? what of teh Trypllians?

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 12:19 a.m.    

A ukrainian is a slavic person and the same with russia. The future of ukraine and russia is SLAVIC UNION.

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Anonymous Jan. 5, 2012, 9:15 p.m.    

We are all Khazars!

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 9:40 a.m.    

You forget the jews. More than 30 % of the modern Ukrainians stem from jewish forefathers.

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Anonymous Jan. 3, 2012, 1:49 a.m.    

take your lieing jew propaganda somewhere else. Jews will loose.

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Anonymous Jan. 5, 2012, 9:14 p.m.    

We are all Khazars!

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Anonymous Jan. 1, 2012, 11:34 p.m.    

We don;t need another hero

One mans hero is another's terrorist.

UPA was a terrorist organisation and like the SS should have been band and its members placed ion trial

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 12:03 a.m.    

Bandera had balls to stand up to the Russians, the biggest mass murderers in world history. Death to Russia - the original Nazi collaborators!

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 12:25 a.m.    

You might have to learn to live with the real NAZIS in the future. word is going around that the real nazis have a base on the moon and antartica and are planning a return attack.

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 1:54 a.m.    

Yes, I am well aware of them. In fact, they have already &quot;beamed&quot; cancer into President Chavez. Scary stuff.

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 12:15 a.m.    

Adam and eve of Genesis were white and they only had white sons and daughters. They sinned against there creator in the garden of eden and the sons and daughters of adam and eve white man kind inherited there sin. Jesus christ the nordic genealogy begins with adam and eve of Genesis this makes all white men and women related to Jesus christ the nordic. This is why when Jesus christ the nordic returns he is only coming to save white man kind.

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Anonymous Jan. 5, 2012, 9:10 p.m.    

God sent his son to us as a Jew to demonstrate that EVEN they can be saved and enter God's Kingdom! There is HOPE for EVERYONE if they would just give up sinful lives! You should rejoyce instead of hallucinate!

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 1:15 a.m.    

Nice video of Sunday to rally in Kiev in honor of a birthday of Stepan Bandera.

http://tsn.ua/politika/u-kiyevi-na-imeninah-banderi-vimagali-vikinuti-lenina-z-besarabki.html

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 2:27 a.m.    

Idiots worshiping the scum of the earth.

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 2:39 a.m.    

&quot;Try to know yourself, your own wickedness. Think on the greatness of God and your wretchedness.&quot;.

PS The Russian Empire {AKA: Muscovy} still exists today, and is trying to expand - and consume and enslave its neighbors.

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Anonymous Jan. 5, 2012, 9:06 p.m.    

3 different Photos of Putin's dad joining Nazi Wehrmacht to FIGHT AGAINST Russian Red Army Komunists

www.compromat.ru/main/putin/vlasovets.htm

http://art-of-arts.livejournal.com/125325.html

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 4:22 a.m.    

The UPA were the ONLY UKRAINIANS who fought against all the invaders and enemies of Ukraine during WW II. History reveals that when the West was duped by the Soviets, the Ukrainians were NOT and were fighting them and the Nazis at the same time. Those who do not recognize the UPA as a freedom fighting force of Good are either really stupid, ignorant or plain EVIL. And in the end, what the UPA fought for was finally won in 1991.

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 4:31 a.m.    

The DUPA whines about how well the Ukraine PATRIOT put a bullet in the void between the xoxol war criminal Banduga ears, heh, heh, heh :D

Cry us a rivers, DUPA nazi loser collaborators, it is very amusing :D

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Anonymous Jan. 5, 2012, 3:52 p.m.    

The &quot;D&quot; stands for Durak.

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Anonymous Jan. 3, 2012, 3:05 p.m.    

Bandera fought for an independant Ukraine. Sovok katsaps fought for the UselessSR... Today Ukraine is Independent.. Bandera WON!

sovok katsaps lost... Now go change your underwear katsap...

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Anonymous Jan. 3, 2012, 5:50 a.m.    

Moscow newspapers publishing unabridged texts of speeches by Hitler, Goebbels, and Goering and Moscow Radio broadcasting them. Add to this information about National Socialist Germany where the workers were living far better than in any rotten bourgeois democracy, the cultural summits reached by the Third Reich’s people’s intelligentsia, the well-trained and equipped Wehrmacht, its victories in the sky, on the ground, and at sea over the cowards wearing the uniforms of Western democracies (the abovementioned contacts with Wehrmacht men proved that this was not idle talk, that the German army was indeed well-organized, and that its command took far better care of its men), and so on and so forth. Like I said, it was a social shock.

This shock came not from tens of millions of people suddenly familiarizing themselves with the ideas of the Nazi leadership that were totally alien to the world’s “most humane socialist state,” but from the fact that the Bolsheviks and the Nazis turned out to be ideological brothers, perhaps even twins.

Below are statements made by Soviet Ukrainians in the fall of 1939, found in the archives of special services and party bodies by the noted historian Vladyslav Hrynevych.

“Well, this is some news! We thought that a war with Germany would break out shortly, we expected it, and then discovered that the situation was the exact opposite!”

“If they didn’t say on the radio that it was Hitler’s speech, one would have easily surmised it was delivered by a Communist. A very good speech, the way a real Communist would have made it. Judging by his latest speech, Hitler rates a [Soviet] Party membership card. He speaks like a Communist.”

“If the situation remains the same, Hitler will bere-educated. Under the circumstances one ought to expect Hitler to apply for Communist Party membership.”

“Germans are clever people. Goering said that the Bolsheviks are building Communism, and we, National Socialism, and the two are almost the same thing.”

http://www.day.kiev.ua/280772

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Anonymous Jan. 6, 2012, 7:11 a.m.    

Bandera tried to protect the Ukrainian Itelligentsia in Ukraine, from the Moskali in the Kremlin {AKA : Muscovy}.

Now the Moskali in the Kremlin {AKA : Muscovy} can not murder Ukrainian Intelligentsia in Ukraine, so they murder Russian Intelligentsia in Russia :

“In Russia, journalism is in much worse state than in Ukraine. The reason is not about incompetent journalists. It is something different.

The walls in the hall of the Union of Journalists of Russia feature portraits of 311 Russian journalists who were assassinated by contract murderers. Those are people aged 26 to 50 for the most part, i.e., of the most productive age. Ukraine’s ‘iconostasis’ is quite numerous as well. Still, our society turned out to be more mature, and in our country journalists can write about what is really happening.

“I

http://www.day.kiev.ua/213686

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 6:27 a.m.    

Why does Moscow care about Bandera?

Bandera failed to appreciate the joy of living in the Soviet empire.

It {Muscovy} needs its Judas, in this case Stepan Bandera.

This brand is especially needed in the east of Ukraine, as a manifestation of loyalty to Russia in general and the Kremlin in particular.

“Why did Bandera spend the better half of WW II in a Nazi concentration camp?”.

Russia’s current ideology badly needs Bandera and all the Banderite topics and myths because this greatly benefits Russian self-consciousness:

The “truth” about Bandera and Banderites that the [Russian] media conveyed on the eve of the 65th anniversary of the “Victory Day” (which included TV series and talk shows) boils down to the following:

(a) The Banderites mainly slaughtered their own men, peaceful western Ukrainians, rather than regular NKVD units;

(b) The Banderites were collaborators; they never fought the Wehrmacht, only the Soviet army and Soviet partisans; Russians, Poles, and Jews were their sworn enemies;

(c) NKVD details dressed as Banderites [who invaded Western Ukrainian villages, torturing and massacring the residents] is a myth created by the [Ukrainian] nationalists; the reverse was true, with Banderites posing as NKVD men and committing all these atrocities;

http://www.day.kiev.ua/300449

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 6:27 a.m.    

...

5

50

500

5000

50000

500000

5000000

50000000

500000000

5000000000

50000000000

500000000000

am i over 50 million?

what is this stuff about 500 misfits

i am sure i can get you 500 misfits of all persuasions in no time and anywhere in downtown kyiev..

there are surely more than 500

pillow biters

lesbians

transvestititties

sadists

sado-masocists

perverts

pimps

sluts

soiciopaths

downsyndromists

senile seniours

psychopaths

killers

and many more of rather 'liberal' variety....

you add 500 banderists

and the mosaic is complete...

WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN NEWS ITEM

IS REALLY no event...

meow, meow...meow...

somewhere in the dead alley...

or is it a rat scouring the kyiev sewer...

this is my little contribution to

EVOLVING, PSYCHOPATHIC FASCINATION por bandera CULT...

OMG

yours poppppppaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

in true vladimir putinan's words, you and you like bandera liberal democratic freedom fighters freaks from freakville are really fucked right, left, above, down and out.

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Anonymous Jan. 3, 2012, 2:57 p.m.    

You'll find plenty of fellow katsaps there.

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 2:12 p.m.    

He was a terrorist under polish rule,was foolish enough to tust germany even though germany had betrayed ukrainians at end of world war 1.And after the great patriotic war provoked brutal crackdowns by stalin the buthcher of Ukrainians.With leaders like that Ukrainians don't need enemies.

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Anonymous Jan. 3, 2012, 6:45 a.m.    

My guess is it is difficult for you to read Ukrainian and English, so you can read this in Russian:

&quot;Кто такие бандеровцы и за что они борются&quot;

http://www.istpravda.com.ua/articles/2012/01/1/67086/

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Anonymous Jan. 6, 2012, 5:42 p.m.    

Ukraine needs leaders like Bandera who think of the nation first and foremost not like the current gangsters and banksters that rule the nation.

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 6:43 p.m.    

Klitschko welcomed the New Year holidays in four languages &amp;#8203;&amp;#8203;(video)

http://prosport.tsn.ua/sport/klichki-privitali-z-novorichnimi-svyatami-na-chotiroh-movah.html

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 7:31 p.m.    

PoR are a bunch of commie bullies that fear Klitschko, just like the commies feared Bandera.

People from the regions {PoR} were not allowed to see Klitschko on pain of dismissal

As noted in the party, &quot;most of the region, who came to talk with Klitschko, saying if today, when the election campaign is launched, Klitschko - Hero of Ukraine, World Boxing Champion, head of one of the largest charitable foundations - preventing meet with people, then what will happen during the elections? &quot;.

http://tsn.ua/ukrayina/lyudey-u-regionah-ne-puskali-do-klichka-pid-strahom-zvilnennya.html

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Anonymous Jan. 2, 2012, 9:06 p.m.    

Klitschko: My ‘new fight’ is to stop Ukraine from ‘sliding into tyranny’

Nov 24, 2011 at 21:08 | Vitali Klitschko

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/117379/50/page/1/#comment-152447#ixzz1iKTjQkkM

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Anonymous Jan. 3, 2012, 2:14 a.m.    

Can freedom be banned on Freedom Day?

Vitali Klitschko: Social temperature is rising

Vitali Klitschko, leader of UDAR (Ukr. acronym of the Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for Reform), WBC heavyweight champion, described as an intellectual boxer by Lina Kostenko in her Notes of a Ukrainian Madman,

Of course, one of the first questions concerned Freedom Day with the authorities banning rallies.

“Each such ban is a double-edged sword. Those in power are wrong believing that by doing so they can muffle the reverberations, for the effect is the exact opposite. By imposing such bans our current political leadership demonstrates its attitude to the people who wish to celebrate Freedom Day. I was on the Maidan. I didn’t go there to support separate persons but to support the desire of the people to defend their rights rather than the interests of industrial-financial groups. They wanted equal opportunities for all, as practiced across the world.

In this case the mind-your-own-business principle just doesn’t work, so those in power are scared by such mass demonstrations.

A lot of people, especially in the countryside and in small towns, are struggling to survive (Kyiv is a different story; here there is electricity, running water, and jobs). These people see no light at the end of the tunnel. There is an end to any kind of patience. That’s not what I think personally, that’s what people think, people with whom I meet as a politician.”

http://www.day.kiev.ua/219352

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Anonymous Jan. 3, 2012, 5:58 a.m.    

Vitali Klitschko: Yanukovych spurns history

By issuing his decree to cancel Freedom Day which marks the start of the 2004 Orange revolution, Pres Yanukovych indicated that in 2011 Ukraine has become a country where little freedom is left, UNIAN quotes the Klitschko-led UDAR party Dec. 30 statement.

The Day of Freedom remains a symbol of the struggle of Ukrainians for their human rights, honest elections and free assembly, UDAR statement goes on. “The attempt to coincide the Freedom Day with the Unification of Ukraine Day on Jan. 22 indicates the regime’s disrespect to the Ukrainian history and the attempt to pull the plug on the 2004 Orange revolution and Maidan uprising,” the statement continues.

“It is symbolic that the Freedom Day was cancelled on the same day when Yulia Tymoshenko was moved to a penitentiary in Eastern Ukraine.

Just 2 days before the New Year the authorities have again humiliated a sick woman to show the brutal force of their coercive apparat – despite assurances of the regime’s officials that Tymoshenko will stay in Kyiv.

Every step, every statement of this regime is another lie and disinformation,” the UDAR says. Ukraine will enter the year 2012 as a country where human rights are infringed, humiliation of Ukrainians become routine, and oppression of the opposition becomes the regime’s strategy, UDAR stressed.

http://zik.ua/en/news/2011/12/30/326836

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/119851/20/page/2/#comments#ixzz1iMdFhBv4

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Anonymous Jan. 9, 2012, 5:38 a.m.    

On the labors of Hercules

Vitali KLITSCHKO: I know that many people abroad want to help us, but sadly, today’s Ukrainian politicians are a caste that will allow no changes

By Larysa IVSHYNA, Ivan KAPSAMUN, Mykola SIRUK, Viktoria SKUBA, The Day

20 years, but we have hardly made a step forward. Again the question arises, why? The answer is simple: our leaders will not do it.

Mentally they are still representatives of homo sovieticus, they fail to feel the challenges of the modern world, and they are not prepared to work in the new way. They are quite happy with the status quo: it’s easier to use the country’s potential for personal gain. But I want them to know: it’s impossible to live in a country and be separated from the society.”

http://www.day.kiev.ua/219753

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Anonymous Jan. 3, 2012, 8:33 a.m.    

if the Moskali and Poles and Jews hate him...he MUST BE GREAT!!!

judge him by Ukraine's enemies!

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Anonymous Jan. 4, 2012, 3:12 p.m.    

...

and you'd be judged by

the number of like-minded friends

you have in the ukraine...

hope this registers in your poverty-stricken, hate-filled mind

yours pooooooooooooopppaaaaaaaaa

i'm with you all the way...i mean it...even if it includes the broomstick up your...........................

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Anonymous Jan. 6, 2012, 10:22 p.m.    

you obviously have the IQ and typical vocabulary of very &quot;hi&quot; Moskali heh,heh,heh:D

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Anonymous Jan. 4, 2012, 12:57 a.m.    

.....is history,,,,it should not be forgotten; nor should it take front and center,,,,,,,

The passion of the comments here, is commendable; but misdirected.

This sort of passsion should be directed towards the present and the futur.

What do I mean?

73 comments directed towards the corrupt and 'illegal piano voting'; would be constructive useful.

Constructive, as this affects ALL UKRAINIANS,,,,NOW......and will affect our children and THEIR FUTUR.....!

Let us fix the current corruption and evil gov'ts......

Then we will have a history,,,,,WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF !

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Anonymous Jan. 4, 2012, 3:07 p.m.    

...

grandstanding

are we not?

now bend over and let the future arrive early.

hulleeejuhaa bro!!!

i hope you reading it correctly...

through bliss you are after emanates, seems to me

from your brown hole and has little to do with you

head, brain, mind...

so like any brave and proud, scout boy, show us your ware.

out there in the brave, new world,

eagerly awaiting your awakening

so mucch so that brown turns red

just like in the bible!!!

so my amigo

lets rejoyce in our one and only song:

MARCH FORWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS, vatican-latin variety ones, of course

your pooopppppppaaaaaaaaa

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Anonymous Jan. 6, 2012, 8:02 p.m.    

Do your self a favor.....check your self into a mental hospital.

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Anonymous Jan. 4, 2012, 2 a.m.    

History....is history....it should definitely not be forgotten.

russia would like the world to forget because they are avoiding compensation for their atrocities.

Forget the the so called discount for the Gaz Transportation System...This is just lies being spouted by the propaganda machines of putin and proffffessssor yanukonvikt so that is can be sold from beneath the feet of the Ukrainian Nation....The common man of Ukraine will never see these discounts in there pocket.

Personally Ukraine should be striving for compensation against all the crimes and atrocities performed by the kremlin on Ukrainians!!!

Even if the Gaz price discount did make it down to the common man, the money is just chicken fry compared money waiting from compensation.

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Anonymous Jan. 5, 2012, 8:05 p.m.    

If you open your eyes then you will see what is happening &quot;TODAY&quot;.

The answer to the question who should be honored in Ukraine - Bandera, who was a symbol of the struggle of the people for freedom, or Stalin {AKA : Muscovy}, who symbolized the enslavement and destruction of Ukrainian, seemed simple and obvious.

But not in a country whose leadership has decided to leap into &quot;bright past&quot;. So in 2011 it celebrated Stalin victory here. Liquidation monument &quot;leaders of the nations' renewed, re-opened the pompous and finally even declared legitimate&quot; element of interior design Zaporizhzhya Regional Committee of the Communist Party. &quot;

Nine young {UKRAINIAN} men were accused of trying to liberate their land from the shameful memory, Ukrainian court sentenced - two to three years imprisonment with probation and compensation of losses amounting to 110 thousand. Comforted victory Communists claimed that the funds will be used to establish yet another monument to Stalin - now in Lutsk.

http://tsn.ua/analitika/2011-povernennya-stalina.html

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AL BALA Jan. 29, 2012, 7:14 p.m.    

If you open your eyes then you will see what is happening &quot;TODAY&quot;.

Russia in its so-called near abroad is actively propagating its viewpoint regarding the Holodomor.

According to documents released by Wikileaks, Britain’s Prince Andrew, a frequent visitor to the region, said that Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev received a letter from Russian President Dmitry Medvedev “telling him that if Azerbaijan supported the designation of the Bolshevik artificial famine in Ukraine as ‘genocide’ at the United Nations, ‘then you can forget about seeing [disputed territory] Nagorno-Karabakh ever again.’”

Prince Andrew said that every single other regional president, except one, had told him of receiving similar “directive” letters from Medvedev.

Read more:

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/opinion/op_ed/detail/98915/#ixzz1krsrNBeo

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Anonymous Jan. 6, 2012, 11:20 a.m.    

You people probably hate Gandhi and George Washington .....Anyone that fights or non fights for his Nation and People is a &quot;villain&quot; for the liberal capitalists goons that are ruining our world....Happy New Year. Banderas was the Greatest of our ERA Ukrainian Patriot. You people idolize scum like lenin stalin and kemal attaturk.

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Anonymous Jan. 7, 2012, 7:24 p.m.    

The Prosecutor's Office appealed the decision of Lutsk city council to ban deployment of Soviet symbols, which the city council adopted April 20, 2011.

http://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2012/01/6/6891399/

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