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Vox Populi with Daryna Shevchenko: What is the right punishment for the men who tried to kill Oksana Makar?

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March 22, 2012, 10:26 p.m. | Vox Populi — by Daryna Shevchenko

Daryna Shevchenko

What punishment is fitting for the three men who on March 8 allegedly gang raped and attempted to burn to death Oksana Makar, an 18-year-old Mykolayiv woman?

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Richard Spurgeon March 23, 2012, 8:34 a.m.    

The Romans would put a cage over the persons head. The cage was fastened around the neck with a opening at the top. A very hungary rat was put in and the person was not able to hit the rat. In some cases it would take a week or more for the rat to kill the person. Death would be to quick for the men in this case.

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Stig J. Ribe March 23, 2012, 10:41 a.m.    

They should face at least 20 years of imprisonment, and to pay a minimum of 3 mill Hr fine which to be given to the victim/victims family.

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AL BALA March 23, 2012, 3:39 p.m.    

For murder human - deputy given 2 years probation

http://tsn.ua/ukrayina/za-vbivstvo-lyudini-deputatu-dali-2-roki-umovno.html

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Phill M March 23, 2012, 6:27 p.m.    

I can think of a few fitting punishments:

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Stripped, covered in honey, and tied to a tree in the middle of a swamp during the height of bug season, and forgotten about.

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Handed over to a group of radical uber-feminists who hate all men and have carte blanche (and many sharp razors, salt, lemon juice).

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Medium grade sand paper to certain parts of the body until those body parts are no longer (followed by disinfecting with vodka, salt, and lemon juice, followed by the honey and swamp punishment).

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As enjoyable as these and other punishments may be to see executed, it is not up to us to determine punishment. The court system exists to provide a 'cool head' that sees that fair and proper justice is served, as opposed to mob justice which would see punishments as I listed above dished out. Sadly, the court system in Ukraine has a history of not being cool when it needs to be cool, and not using its head when it needs to use its head, which has resulted in a history of unbalanced, unfair justice.

As said in another article, it is sad that, given the state of the Ukrainian justice system, so much goes unpunished, and sometimes when punishment does fall, it falls upon the victim, not the assailant.

G.K. Chesterton, a Christian philosopher and writer, wrote, though the words of Father Brown, about retribution and justice.

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&quot;I mean that we here are on the wrong side of the tapestry. The things that happen here do not seem to mean anything; they mean something somewhere else. Somewhere else retribution will come on the real offender. Here it often seems to fall on the wrong person.&quot;

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As for what the punishment should be, I am of the opinion that we should let Oksana determine the punishment, as she is the victim, and the person who knows best the wrongs that have been done.

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Paul Worthington March 25, 2012, 10:42 p.m.    

Oksana should have a say to the court and judge, what their punishment should be. Castration would be an option, just to start with.

Since she lost an arm and the use of two legs. Amputate three limbs off of the criminals and castrate them. Leave each one in a wheelchair with only one arm and castrated, locked up for their natural lives.

Oksana faces a life of torture and hell ahead of her, with no legs, one arm missing and the memory of death and pain in her soul forever.

Many victims of such crimes just commit suicide as life is too painful to go on living. Oksana needs the support of the people, perhaps even her own TV show.

Death penalty is too kind to these criminals. They need to suffer for their crimes for as long as humanely possible. Since they poured gasoline on Oksana's genitals, then part of their punishment will be to pour gasoline on these &quot;Men&quot; genitals and burn them off. Not a clean castration, but a burnt ember one. For that is the gasoline they poured on Oksana's genitals.

The punishment must fit the crime. Oksana is alive and suffering. These men must now face a life of torture and suffering, just as Oksana faces.

The punishment must match the crime. That is the purpose of law.

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Paul Worthington March 25, 2012, 10:34 p.m.    

This crime is an extraordinary negative mark on our public image. There must the a comprehensive trial, a very public one, with their faces all over the media, then if they are found guilty, to be put away for the rest of their natural lives, in accordance with the law.

The images of a young Ukrainian woman burned alive and left for dead in a construction site may very well become the topic of a film in the future. We as a people cannot allow the criminal perpetrators, whether they were &quot;drunk&quot; or not, to go free. Using alcohol isn't an excuse for egregious criminal behaviour.

This crime will be the blacked mark on our tourism industry in decades if it is not prosecuted and the criminals taken off the streets.

Incalculable damage to Ukraine economy, morals, ethics, national image, has been done by this crime. Alcoholism is not an excuse for gang-raping, strangling, and burning a young woman alive in Ukraine.

Thank God she is alive, with at least one arm, she can write and become a writer. For surely she is a remarkable survivor.

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AL BALA March 26, 2012, 2:49 a.m.    

&quot;If you are the son or the nephew of someone with power, you can basically go around acting with total impunity. Nepotism and lack of respect for the rule of law is rife in Ukraine. If you look at Yanukovych's son [Oleksander] - he has become one of the 100 richest men in the country since his father came to power. This kind of thing doesn't happen in a normal country. This really is the borderland of Europe,&quot; a Kiev-based EU diplomat told this website.

The President's other son, Viktor junior, is an MP who rarely shows up in parliament and who has been filmed so drunk that he could not get into his own appartment. Neither issue has harmed his position.

The phenomenon of untouchable relatives has its own name in Ukraine - &quot;mazhory&quot; - and the list of disturbing cases is already long.

Serhiy Demishkan, the son Yanukovych associate and senior civil servant Volodymyr Demishkan, in 2007 confessed to the murder of Vasyl Kryvozub, who was force-fed vodka and thrown into a river with bits of a radiator tied to his neck. Serhiy Demishkan was set free in 2010, three months after Yanukovych came to power, on grounds that he suffers from skin cancer.

Dmytro Rud, the son of a prosecutor in the town of Dnipropetrovsk, in 2010 ran over and killed three women in his Toyota Prado then drove away. He is free on bail.

Roman Landik, the son of a pro-Yanukovych MP, last July in a restaurant in the town of Luhansk approached a young woman, Maria Korshunova, threw a drink at her, punched her repeatedly and dragged her round the floor by her hair. She ended up in hospital. He walked free on a suspended sentence.

http://euobserver.com/24/115623

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AL BALA March 26, 2012, 3:05 a.m.    

According to our information, the government launched a special operation of terror against businesses that sympathetic nationalists. This operation is called&quot; Sputnik &quot;- he said.

&quot;All the business representatives who are members or sympathizers of the&quot; Freedom &quot;, experiencing the most stringent repression. They now have a check from the tax, fire, sanitary station, the Security Service, Prosecutor's Office&quot; - said the leader of &quot;Freedom.&quot;

He said the list is taken absolutely all businesses, charities, even NGOs.

If these structures at least minimally involved in any of the opposition, particularly in the &quot;Freedom&quot;, the structure is an unscheduled check, arrange provocations discharged fantastic fines, said Tyahnybok.

http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2012/03/25/6961406/

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Jaroslaw Sawka March 27, 2012, 7:58 p.m.    

and then when they heal; soak them in Petrol &amp; light them -BURN!!!

On Television so as to WARN other wannabee perverts!

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Jaroslaw Sawka March 27, 2012, 8:01 p.m.    

just let them BURN off ALL their skin &amp; then try to save them and then AFTER they heal then YOU could let them go &quot;free&quot;.

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AL BALA March 28, 2012, 1:55 a.m.    

Kanev Reservoir passed into private hands

http://tsn.ua/video/video-novini/kanivske-vodoshovische-pereyshlo-u-privatni-ruki.html?page=3&amp;items=47858&amp;type=0

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Paul Worthington March 29, 2012, 11:55 a.m.    

She died today. Brave girl.

The young rich spoiled &quot;men&quot; need to be castrated, burned alive, but in prison and burned daily with douses of gasoline, tortured daily until they die over the course of the years.

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Paul Worthington March 29, 2012, 11:57 a.m.    

I wouldn't be surprised if her Father or Mother put bullets through the heads of the rich, rotten, spoiled young &quot;men&quot;, within weeks.

They need to be taken out of society - permanently.

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