A Russian has described how his unit is fighting on the front with antiquated equipment against ferocious Ukrainian fire, adding if President Putin announces full mobilisation it could lead to a civil war.


In an intercepted call released by Ukraine's Military Intelligence (HUR), the man begins by describing to a woman how three of his comrades – “one young, and two old” – were killed by a Ukrainian shell that “flew straight into the trench” they were in.


The woman responds by asking: “Are there enough bullets? Ammunition?”


He replies by saying they “don’t have enough,” adding: “Imagine, they hit us 100 times a day, f**k it. And we hit them 20-25 times at most a day.”



The woman is furious at the news, saying on Russian state TV they report Moscow’s troops have plenty of ammunition and she’s seen videos of train loads of equipment being shipped to the front lines.


She then implies Putin mustn’t be aware of the real situation, adding that her father complains to her that the Russian president “doesn’t f**king know much.”


The soldier responds by saying he “knows everything,” adding: “Our ammunition is old from 1985-86. We have two machine guns from 1985.”


She replies: “Oh f**k, this is the Afghan War.”

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The soldier agrees, telling her to make sure she tells her father of this.


They then discuss the future of the war in Ukraine with the woman saying that “publicists and military experts” have said to expect it to last until 2026.


The soldier ends with a warning, saying if this is true and Russia begins a full mobilzation “they will fight against themselves, [Putin’s] own troops will go against him.”


It’s not clear when the call was reported but on Tuesday, Russia’s Minister of Defence, Sergei Shoigu, said the “special military operation would last until at least 2025.



Blaming “cynical actions by the west and their henchmen in Kyiv” for prolonging the war, he said: “The consistent implementation of the measures in the action plan until 2025 will make it possible to achieve the planned goals.”

Though the intercepted call has not been verified, analysis of such conversations by Ukraine’s intelligence services indicates that Russia’s military finds itself in a dire situation in the face of Ukraine’s ongoing counteroffensive.

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